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26:46 So that's probably your first decade of production to a depth of about 300 meters open pit and then you're going to decline underground into the high-grade chutes. So very exciting where we've had some success. We think there's a lot more opportunity on this footprint. Like I mentioned in Russia where there's larger deposits, we really want to chase this and see what scale exists here. I mean, it's possible for extensions, as I mentioned, at depth, but also to the east and west and north. And there's an opportunity here maybe to find other parallel structures that come off of this trend, just like ATO1 and 2 come off of ATO4. Maybe there's others. And so we're very excited to finally get back to exploration. So I mentioned 3 drill rigs on site today. The focus on those 3 drill rigs are at depth drilling, ATO1.
27:36 So we have 1 rig that's ATO1 drilling at depth, deeper hole here. So hopefully we'll encounter some maybe new discovery deposit extensions. But we now have the time and money with Eric Sprott's recent investment has given us a much stronger balance sheet to be more aggressive on exploration. It's a fantastic position to be in. The other drill rigs are focusing on Mungu and we're looking at Mungu at depth here. Like I said, it's still fairly shallow, so we're now looking at these deeper extensions of Mungu at depth. Very exciting with the expectation that the new slow from this drilling program currently should start trickling in in September. We've drilled a few holes already and they're actually at the lab and they'll start coming in, we think in the coming weeks. So very exciting to be able to release our drilling results in September, hopefully time frame or within a few weeks. So that's all new drilling and I think it'll be very exciting to the market.
28:41 Many have not paid attention to our previous successes. In our last couple of programs, we've had quite significant successes in drilling and I think we should highlight that again in the future and then show us some of the upside as we proceed. So that's the ATO in Mungu. Where we are today with the phase 1, how we're moving very quickly to phase 2 in short order. Given the economics on a CIL plant, you're going to have higher recoveries on gold and silver. We have a low CapEx. You have no barriers to actually expand. So we'll be, you know, all the heavy lifting to expand is done so it makes a lot of sense to bring that online as soon as possible. At a 150,000 ounces gold equivalent run rate with an estimated margin of $800 to $1,000, can't say for certain, you can see how quickly that cash flow and even the numbers could pile in on phase 2 and why we're aggressive to move that forward. So that's the ETO Mungu project and the highlights there. I don't know if I missed anything, Jeremy. If not, I'll move to UK.
29:48 You're muted, Jeremy. Sorry. You're muted, Jeremy. Sorry. So, one of the things, just to reflect on, you know, the profitability of the project, you know, I think it's noted in the release, we've mined over 1 million ounces. And when you look at even at the cash costs of under 600 and all in sustaining of 730, the point to note and why there's a very rapid accumulation of cash is that We've bought and we've essentially paid for that million ounces already. It's already in. It's already sort of come out of the bank. So the cash flow, the cash dropping to the bottom line is actually quite a lot more significant than is reflected in the cash cost numbers. Cash cost numbers really reflect an allocation, based on recoveries in grade, allocating costs of the leach pad that's already been built.
30:44 So that's why you're gonna see the cash build up rapid here. We were guiding the market to over $30M in cash at the end of this year. And that's incorporating a pretty aggressive exploration drill program, particularly at ATO. So just to add to that. Yeah. Thanks, Jeremy. Yeah, that's very important that we're targeting 30 million US at the end of the year on our balance sheet. That's net of expiration on both of our properties, sustaining CapEx on the Heat Bleach project, as well as the spend on the feasibility that's underway now. So we're not... And taxes. And taxes. So it's a very good position to be in where now we can just focus not on the us on execution and growing our company and hitting some of these new targets.
31:36 So with that, I'm just going to highlight the UK project, the Udham Hundi project I mentioned earlier on the map. This is in southwest of the country, very exciting project for us. It's 14,400 hectares, never been drilled by anyone. So not us, not previously, but has had drilling all around. So these 2 licenses to the north and south and the white, Altonar and Bayan Hundi, which I believe is now called the Hundi Gold Project. That's Erdene Resources, ERD, and they've done a fantastic job in the last couple of years exploring this region and having some really good discoveries, really high-grade hits on both projects. And now I think they're sitting at about 1 million ounces between their 2 deposits with a BFS on their product to the south. These are licenses that are joining to our property. So as you can imagine, our property is probably highly prospective.
32:30 We're very excited. We've done all the groundwork, IP, magnetic soil sampling. We have our 4 targets here in Discoveries, Milky Way, Alton Sum, Golden Step and Blue Hill. And finally, this summer, we've actually commenced a trenching program that's ongoing today at Milky Way. And then we'll move to Alton Sum and Golden Step and Blue Hill in the coming weeks and I guess months. And then we're going to mobilize a drill rig down here. And for the first time ever, we're going to drill this license. So this is something obviously has 0 value in our stock price today, which has all the upside of an Explore Co. In a large package where you have obviously the neighbours who've had success. So it's a very exciting project for us that we finally get to spend some real time and money on. And we really look forward to updating the market on that. I think trenching results as well will trickle in September along with some of the ATO Mungu drilling results. And then once we start drilling, again, too early to say, maybe October timeframe onwards, we'll get some drilling down here for the first time. And I think that could be very exciting drilling.
33:34 When you look at some of our Explorer coals elsewhere on the TSX Venture and TSX and with some of the hits they get, I mean, we're getting 0 value here. Very excited to see what we have down here. And We believe this could be another production center for the company. You can call this phase 3 if you like, but it's not the same property. There are no synergies, but it could be another production center where we could build a third mine. So we have a good pipeline of organically growing through phase 1, phase 2 in the UK. Not relying on any M&A to get to the size and scale that becomes relevant. However, we will focus our time and efforts on semi-native country given our success in terms of showing execution, our support in country, and I would say limited competition while the country remains restricted. We want to be a little aggressive on tying up other assets that we would like in country sooner than later with our goal of building a mid-tier precious metals company focused solely on Mongolia.
34:35 With that, I think we can turn over to questions. Bianca. Hello, can you hear me? Yeah. Great. Let's jump right into it. We have a bunch of questions. First question from Carl, has Step seen any triplet results so far? What's a triplet? I don't know. That's a good question. I have no idea. Carol, if you want to elaborate in the comments, please do so. But in the meantime, let's jump to the next one. The 550 USD, is that all in sustaining costs? No, No, that's a cash cost. So that's essentially a mining cost.
35:25 So all in sustaining includes sustaining CapEx and corporate G&A. So all in sustaining is about 730 in the first quarter. We think that will come down over time. As Anil mentioned, we've got some significant costs in the first quarter of production, but we will see. I think we'll see probably see all in sustaining in the 650 range life of mine as we move forward. Warner asks, are you milling yourself and what are the energy costs? Sorry, we're not really milling. It's a simple mine, crush and stack operation.
36:12 And then the material goes through a heap leach circuit. We use sprinklers and dripper tubes. We have pregnant pond, barren pond and it runs through an ADR plant and comes out as a Gold Dore bar. The energy costs, we use diesel generators at the moment. And those costs are actually, at the moment. And, you know, those costs are, you know, actually, you know, as you would expect, you know, we do spend quite a bit of money on fuel. But, you know, there's certainly in line with similar operations, we get our diesel from Russia. Similar question here regarding energy costs. With the recent decline in oil and gas prices, how will that improve the oil and sustaining costs?
37:01 Well, oil and gas prices have jumped around a little bit. I think we haven't seen a – we obviously benefited from lower prices earlier this year. I'm not anticipating that that's going to make a material difference to our all in sustaining costs. And if you're using $650 as a guide, $650 to $700 as a guide price, I don't expect it will benefit hugely. I mean, again, on the Oxide project, most of the money has been spent. So really all we're doing is we're allocating the cost of the million tonnes that we've mined over the last 20-months and additional mining costs as we move forward. We do benefit from our mining costs are not extremely low, but they're modest on a global scale.
38:02 And I think one of the things we really benefit from being in Mongolia is accessibility. We don't talk about that enough, but you know, this project is a 7 hour drive from Ulaanbaatar, the capital, 6 hours on paved Road. We're very close to the Chinese border, as Anil mentioned, and we're able to get reagents and parts and consumables into the country at very good prices and very high quality equipment as well. And that's what really enables us to do this. Well the other the other key thing you know there are a number of comparable projects in Canada that operate in almost the Arctic. There's a fly in fly out projects with costs in the $1,200 $1,300 range And they're very difficult projects to mine.
38:53 As you can see from the video and the comments in Ilme, we're mining essentially gravel. We're taking ore out of a pit or off the top of a hill, putting it through 2 crushers and then flushing the reagents through. So it's – and the topography of the area is the perfect – is perfect for heap leach, slightly sloping. And that enables us to come out with this extremely competitive cost structure. Next question says, with the 40 million USD EBITDA, with what goal price was that calculated?
39:40 That was using a $1600 goal price. You know, I think you're going to have swings and roundabouts. It's going to be some things that will end up costing less. And first year of production, there will always be some twists and turns on production. So we're sort of staying with that guidance on EBITDA. Clearly, gold price is higher than that right now. But we're keeping that guidance just so we've got a little bit of cushion if we have some drops in production along the way or other factors. So guiding again, $30 million of cash in the bank at the end of the year with a very busy gold, a very busy exploration cycle ahead of us.
40:31 And so we're gonna keep with those 2 numbers, 40 million EBITDA and $30 million in cash flow, cash on the bank. Paul Renkin asks, will you leach through the winter? Yep. Yeah, Janil, I've probably talked enough. Do you want to take that? Oh, no. Yeah. To run all year round. The other heap, which is in country and even in cold weather, similar to us, can run all year round. You just have to expect that there is seasonality to the recoveries you'll get in the winter months. We have modeled that, so you will see less ounces produced during those few months over the winter, but we will continue to stack and leach in the winter.
41:19 There are a few ways to treat it through heating solutions and tenting and all that stuff. The technical team, our operation team works on it and has experience on it. We have a team that's worked on operations like this in country all year round. So our plan is to run all year round on leaching, mining and crushing and stacking. Mongolia is, that part of Mongolia is desert like. It's incredibly dry. One of the biggest problems with heap leach projects is rain. If you're working on a heap leach project in Indonesia, you can get 350 days of rain. And that's a whole different other problem. Because it just messes with your solution and dilutes and dilutes your Gold solution. So we don't have that problem. We do have a problem with cold. It gets cold.
42:14 It gets cold early in Mongolia and it gets warm early. So very similar sort of summer winter split to just sort of north northern China if you know that area. So we can you know March can be 25 degrees. So you know they come out of winter very quickly. And again, because it's dry, we're able to use the tinting and heating, you know, without having to worry about precipitation. Very little snow in that region. Another question here. Did you inherit any existing permits at the time of acquisition from Sentara? Yes. Yes, we did. As Anil mentioned, this project is fully permitted for phase 1 and phase 2.
43:06 So, you know, there are, obviously we needed to get the reagent permits, but we're essentially permitted for this phase 2, fresh rock project. So we're going to be able to move reasonably quickly into that second phase. That's a big advantage not to have a permitting overhang or barrier. I mean, most people, you move to this stage too, and it could take years to get all the permitting complete. We've done all the heavy liftings and Tara did it. We obviously bought the project with all the permits and the only one you couldn't get before you built the mine was that cyanide transport usage and storage permit which we got in December of last year, which also carries on with phase 2. So we're in a very good position here to just keep moving forward. Thomas Szymanski asks, do you plan to hedge the gold price for the future production sales next 1.25 or so in order to secure margin for future expansion and financial needs?
44:03 We're not we're not looking at at hedging the gold price at this time. Yeah, I think most of the shareholders that we've spoken to are looking for exposure to higher gold prices. So we're not planning on that. It's actually not that easy to hitch the gold price, certainly in Mongolia. But we are looking at a number of options in our treasury unit to ensure that we maximize interest. Interest rates in Mongolia are relatively high, so we are able to benefit from some cash management options, but no plan at this time to hedge precious metal prices. Are you planning to join forces with the Airdene resources on development of UK project region in the future? No plans I don't think. Right Anil?
45:03 No plans. I think we haven't, We actually haven't drilled our own property. Like I mentioned earlier, there's a chance for a mine or 2 on our own property. I think we need to see what we have first before we look at any consolidation or joint venture or any of that stuff. But as of now, our team is looking to build and operate their own mines as we did with phase 1 and as we'll do with phase 2. And I think we'll see what lies ahead. I think our focus for now is let's get drilling on our property. Let's see what we have and then we'll take us, we'll see what the next steps are. Yeah I think Odeen is about 2 or 3 years away from production So I think it's early days yet and early days for them as well.
45:52 Similar thing here. What geophysics structures are STEP targeting at the UK project? I think we're early in that. I think obviously we've seen the BFS from Moudin. There's an expectation that geology is going to be relatively similar, but I don't think we're in a position to really speak to that. We've just started trenching and drill rig on site in the next couple of weeks. Yeah, obviously we have the data from surrounding areas and we've done our own geophysics studies to come up with these 4 discoveries, but they're quite big. Often, some of this thing is 3km by half a kilometre. That's where this trenching is going to come into play to give us some more data so that we can start drilling and hopefully de-risk that drilling.
46:43 I think it's still early days to comment on anything. But again, looking at your neighbors, you can see that you're probably a good chance of having similar geology to the north and the south, given where and how they're drilled. Raziel Zisman asks, are there any alternatives to diesel? Is there potential to use renewable energy in the future? Yeah, absolutely. That's a focus of ours. On phase 2, you're not going to be relying on diesel. It will be too costly and obviously not environmentally friendly, we would say. So we are looking at all the alternatives for powering up phase 2, which would include connecting to the grid and hopefully a toggle between renewable energy sources.
47:33 So sun, I'm not sure about the solar opportunity, but I know wind, we are on the Mongolian steppe, you can see there's nothing hindering the wind. So it gets very windy on site and we wanna take advantage of that. So we're certainly looking at wind power. We've talked to a few parties already who actually want to fund it and develop it themselves. And we certainly want to look at that. There's already a 50 megawatt wind power farm in the south of the country. We would like to do anything we can to help the country grow renewable energy sources. Yeah, we're looking at wind and solar. And yeah, we're actually in the middle of a study right now to assess that we are gonna need, yeah, we are gonna need to have something, yeah, significant power, significant additional power to start the CIL operation.
48:29 Speaking of, We have a question here from Michael Coogan, who asks what will the CIL bank cost? Yeah, like I mentioned- I think we're- Go ahead. Go. Yeah, I mean, I think- Go ahead. Go ahead. Sorry, you go. So 100 million, I think is the number we've used. It's actually lower than that in the current study. The current study comes in a little bit lower than that, but we're using 100 million as a guide. We did, as Anil mentioned, we did a full update of our feasibility study last year, about an eight-month process using external consultants in Mongolia to support our permitting process for the reagents. And we are having DRA update that, and we're doing a full run-through of new equipment sourcing procurement.
49:23 We do benefit again from being next to China. There's significant world class equipment providers just across the border in CIL. Another question about CIL. Will the CIL plant be housed in the ADR facility to help reduce CIL plant capex? I don't know the answer to that. I don't think so. I don't think that's the plan at the moment. But if it made sense and it fits, maybe. I actually don't know the answer to that, though. Yeah, I don't think so. I think you've got to build an additional facility for that. The ADR plant is reasonably full.
50:12 We have built this plant and all our operations on a modular basis, as you will have seen from the video and the photos, this is—we don't have any—we're not restrained by topography in terms of our ability to bolt on additional facilities, and we have structured the project with the phase 2 in mind. So, allowing additional space, both for leaching and for construction. We do run this company like a small company. We're all owners. So we're always looking at the most cost efficient, but not giving up on quality, but cost efficient ways to grow and build this expansion for sure.
51:01 I have 2 pretty similar questions, but they both boil down to what are the potential risks or challenges that could prevent Steph from meeting the 60,000 ounces by year-end guidance? Sure. Well, I mean, that's an aggressive guidance. You know, it's very comfortable to say 60,000 ounces over a 12-month period, as should be, given we started production only in April this year, production for the first time. But to hit the targets, we have to move aggressively for the rest of the year. But you can't give up on safety. So there's obviously risks of not hitting that target by the end of the year. But we have the luxury of a higher gold price, our cash flow and EBITDA most probably won't even be affected.
51:52 But if we don't hit it, then we're comfortable hitting it over a 12-month period, I think, Jeremy. Getting to it is still our intention and we're going for it. But you have to remember, we brought this production online with 100% Mongolian workforce, who are obviously skilled and had done an amazing job. But the guy who has built and operated the heap leach in many countries and including ours, who actually knows how to optimize and really get to as much as gold as possible is not even in the country yet. And so we have to, you know, that's the risk of not having him in, I think, the property area is probably, you probably pushing back on that target.
52:38 Yes. I mean, I think simple math. We did 15,000 ounces in Q2. We're hoping to do something similar in our third quarter. And having said that, in this type of operation, you are able to catch up. So there are some—it's not necessarily a straight line, particularly given the fact that we've already mined over 1 million tonnes. There are options. And so, I think we're just trying to run as hard as we can and produce as much Gold as we can in this environment. And bottom line is, with what we have today, what we're doing today, both on generating cash flow and all this exploration and expansion potential, We're not even valued at a 30,000oz producer, let alone a 60.
53:37 So while we're doing everything we can, there are levers to pull to actually increase production as we have so far. I think the focus is really on cash flow generation in this phase, making sure that we operate safely and that we maximise the cash flow over the next 18, 24 months and leading into that phase too. And that was always the plan. I mean, I think there have been some people look at our company and look at a small, a short mine life. I mean, the oxide was always meant to be short and it'll probably be shorter than the 4 and A05 years we can actually run. ATO4, we're very optimistic about the oxides of ATO4.
54:27 Now about to start mining that. So, I think we're confident that we're over the next 18, 24 months, we'll be able to maximise ounces and cash flow. And the most important thing for us is to operate safely, but control our costs. And I think The key thing coming out of our Q2 results is we've really underscored the cash flow generating potential of this project. We're being pretty conservative on our cost allocations and we won't know the life of mine until the mine is through. But we're very comfortable that we're operating in a, you know, to maximize cash flow. Yeah. And that kind of goes to one of the other questions I saw there anyways, in terms of funding, you know, we don't, There is no equity raise required at this point to actually bring Phase 2 online. We have our own cash flow generation that will actually fund that component in adding debt in. So If all goes well, there is no dilution required to actually bring that expansion on. We have our self-funding ability here with already having US$30M at the end of the year and adding to that the next couple of quarters next year before we even start. So I think we're very confident in being able to fund that. But that's not to say that we wouldn't raise equity at higher levels. If our stock does get re-rated, as it should, in the coming quarter and we trade more like our peers,
55:58 which should be multiples today, then you could raise strategic equity to expedite a build or buy other assets. The best thing is we don't need to raise any money, so we're not going to raise any money at these levels. Great. We still have a few questions, but we're coming to the end of time, and I want to make sure that we have time for a final word from you both. So what I'd encourage everyone to do is if you have a question that you weren't able to get answered or if you just thought of a question and it just came to you and you'd like the Step Gold team to answer them, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to answer any and all questions that you send directly to them. But Anil, Jeremy, thank you so much for walking us through this update. I'd like to pass it back to you both for the final word.
56:46 Thanks, Bianca. And yes, please, everyone, reach out directly. We're always open. We talk to any and every investor we can and love to clarify and talk about what's coming. So please do reach out directly and we'll be happy to answer any of the questions we can that weren't answered today. So I think just highlighting where we came from in the last few months and where we're going. We're in commercial production and we announced commercial production early July. We brought in with additional capital that has strengthened our balance sheet and put a lot more eyes on the story. And we think it's a great endorsement. And he's the equivalent to a blue chip institutional investor. And that's where our focus will be to bring others on our roster in the coming quarter. We've now commenced expiration on both properties. So that's a lot of news flow on that expiration backed by the resource reserve update at the end of the year and the final piece will be the feasibility study in Q1. So lots of good news and thank you for supporting your time.
57:49 Okay, and Just a bunch of questions on the phase 2 project, including use of renewable. There's been a few follow-up questions on that, So happy to take those questions. We are not providing too much information on that project, but happy to take any questions offline on sort of number of megawatts and sort of rough outlines. That information is not public, so it's not price sensitive, but I can give people some sort of idea of the types of power requirements we'll need. And there's also some questions on Mongolia and taxes and total group exposure and I'm happy to happy to take those at Jeremy at step valve calm excellent thank you guys great thank you