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26:21 million of buying come in just from the ETFs. And so that's something that is going to benefit shareholders. It's going to increase liquidity. It's going to give us a currency to continue to go out and do more accretive deals. So that enhanced capital markets profile is something to seriously consider and a strong aspect of this deal. I'll turn it back over to you. Let's go on to the next slide, Romeo. I think that this slide captures all the things that Sean was just mentioning about the true synergies between the 2 companies. And the fact that our shareholder base is hardly at any overlap at all is, again, that's just that's net accretive to the combined company.
27:19 So this slide really kind of captures where we want to take the company. You see Hecklin in the middle of it and Contango, Dolly Barton right above that. We are going to be that perfect blend of Gold and Silver. I think once the 200,000m of drilling done at Kitsol is incorporated into an updated resource, which we'd expect to get in the first half of next year, I think we're going to be right around that 50-50 mark. And as we've talked about, Dolly is the go-to story in that part of the Golden Triangle. Contango is the go-to story for things in Alaska, new opportunities in Alaska. So we certainly see this as a platform to continue to build on, focused on high-grade and focused on implementing the DSO model.
28:15 And again, I keep talking about the exploration upside of these districts. Sean mentioned the exploration team at DALI. And what I really look forward to is sort of integrating these 2 teams and the cross-pollinization that happens when you get geologists in a room thinking about a new project that they haven't had the opportunity to take a look at yet. So I'm very excited about that. And again, I think this slide really captures where we want to take the combined company. And so, Rick, when I started doing my DD on Katango, I saw a company that was producing 60,000oz a year of Gold.
29:01 With Lucky Shot coming online, that would go to 90, that would go to 110, but there was a path with Johnson Track to 200,000 ounces. So it's 60,000 ounces now, it's 200,000 ounces. What the Kitsault Valley brings is an opportunity to enhance that pathway to 200,000oz of Gold production to include 6Moz of Silver equivalent production from the Kitsault Valley. When I look ahead at our portfolio, I see a 6Moz a year Silver producer with 200,000oz of Gold production, which makes the company, you know, considering that all of that production is going to be Northwest BC, Alaska.
29:47 You know, the only other company that's giving investors exposure to safe jurisdiction, high-grade Silver and Gold production is Hecla. And so, you know, I said it earlier, you know, this is a deal where Katango shareholders are getting exposure to the best performing asset class this year, which is Silver. And Dolly Varden shareholders are getting exposure to cash flow. They're getting exposure to a serially successful mining entrepreneur in Rick and his team. It really puts the company in a place where it's going to stand out against all other companies as this highlights. We can go on to the next slide, Romeo.
30:40 I just want to add one other thing on that last slide. This company is really well financed, this combined company. We've got well over $100 million US in cash. And Moncho is generating $100 million of free cash flow a year on average for the life of mine at Moncho. So it's just a solid company. Rick, we're already starting to read each other's minds. I was actually going to lead with that statement. So I'm glad that you mentioned it because I forgot. This slide here. It's funny because it surprised me when I looked at this. And you know, this is highlighting 2024, 2025, but we could have created this slide. It would have been too busy, but it could have showed 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023.
31:40 The numbers speak for themselves. Dolly Varden, third best intercept from a grade thickness standpoint. Third best in 2024. Second best in 2025. Johnson Track, I've been talking to my shareholders that a good intercept is 300gm m Gold. That's a 2000gm m Gold hit at Johnson Track. So, what we have here is we've got 2 portfolios that have generated some of the top 10 drill results consistently year after year after year. And the goal with the 70,000m of drilling that's planned is we're going to be here in 2026.
32:35 And so again, the numbers speak for themselves. We've got freakishly high-grade systems that also have the width. And it's really, I've been around this business for 22 years. I haven't seen a portfolio put together like this. So I think with that, we can probably go on to the next slide, Romeo. So the Combined Company, I think we've talked a little bit about this, but just to go into more detail, myself, I'll serve as the CEO, I'll be a director as well. Sean will be president and also director. Mike Clark, the CFO of Contango, will continue as the CFO of the combined company.
33:21 Clinton Allman will become the chair of the combined company. I've known Clint for a lot of years. Clint ran the Keno Hill operation in Alexco, or he ran Alexco in the Keno Hill operation. So he knows the Silver market very well. Brad Juneau, who is our current chairman, will stay on as a director. He's got a strong background in resource development and operations, mostly on the oil and gas side, but he is the co-founder of Contango. He's the one who recognized that this was a great opportunity for a bunch of oil investors to get involved with back when they made the original discovery. I'm glad to see him staying on as a director.
34:08 Mike Sineman will remain as a director. Mike is the CFO of B2 Gold, Strong background in finance and capital markets. Tim Clark, he spent 23 years in capital markets, including with BMO and Barclays. He's currently CEO of the Quebec-based Gold developer Theory Gold. Darren Devine, we work with him on getting this transaction done, work closely with him getting this transaction done. Former securities lawyer, strong background in capital markets as well, including being co-founder of a very successful K92 mining operation. We've got a very strong and independent board and I think this group will serve shareholders very, very well.
35:03 And just the only point I'll add here, Rick, is Fury is a 12% shareholder of DALI. They're wildly supportive of this deal. They have signed a voter support agreement. They are voting in favor of the transaction and they've been just a great partner. It was 4 years ago on December 6th that we acquired homestake from Fury and That was a step change deal for Dolly Varden that led us on this path. And here we are 4 years later with another transformational deal. So I just wanted to highlight Fury's ownership. Tim is the CEO of Furi and their support for this transaction as a 12% shareholder.
35:54 Now, I would like to spend a bit of time talking about the portfolios of each company. And we're kind of doing this for the benefit of the other company shareholders. So I'll start with going through our portfolio in Alaska. So this starts with the Mancho mine. You can see where it's located. It's on private land owned by an Alaska native tribe. We've had a strong and close working relationship with the tribe for many years now. This is the joint venture with Kinross as a 70% partner and the manager and operator of the Moncho Mine. Ore, this again is the DSO model, ore is run-of-mine ore is loaded into trucks and transported to the mill at Fort Knox.
36:43 We came to that arrangement because Fort Knox had ample excess capacity at the mill to accommodate processing the Moncho ore, which is high-grade. The Feasibility grade was close to 8g per ton. It is mostly Gold. There is a little bit of Silver there, but it's about a 1 to 1 ratio. The project was started operation in July, started producing Gold in July of last year. And we're just probably wrapping up our last quarter of production here. Ore is processed through the Fort Knox mill on a campaign or batch process. Basically the middle month of every quarter, we run about 200,000 tonnes of ore through the Fort Knox mill or from Moncho through the mill.
37:38 We're scheduled to produce about 60,000oz of Gold a year for the life of mine, which goes out until 2029, 2030. And we're generating over US$100M of free cash flow from operations. Next up is Lucky Shot. It's a 2-hour drive from Anchorage. It is easily accessible and it's a small resource right now. We understand the vein structure. It's a very simple mesothermal vein structure. We've gone underground, put the underground development work in place so that we can get the detailed infill drilling done and extending the density of drilling along the entire, approximately 1 mile of strike length of the known vein.
38:32 Our objective, you can see we have outlined over 100,000 ounces at 14.5g gold. That is at the indicated grade. We are undertaking an 18,000m drill program right now. The objective is to outline between 4,000oz and 500,000oz of resource and then target about 250,000oz of that as a reserve and develop a mine plan that can target startup production of 30,000oz and then ramp up to 40,000oz, maybe 50,000oz of annual production. And then once you have a five-year mine plan, you weigh these mesothermal vein systems, you just keep drilling down, dip and long strike and keep that 5-year mine plan going forever.
39:21 Lastly, Johnson Track, again, located on private land owned by an Alaska native corporation, the Siri Corporation, roughly 1 million ounce Gold equivalent resource. This is a polymetallic deposit, or as we like to refer to now, critical metals. This is Copper, Lead, Zinc, Gold and Silver. The Gold and Silver make up about 70% of the value of the project with zinc, copper and lead making up the balance. I mentioned earlier, we were included in the FAS 41 dashboard. This is a federal permitting coordinating agency and we are very excited to get them involved. It helps with the whole transparency of the permitting process, the accountability for all of us, for the federal agencies, state agencies, and ourselves included in terms of the process of permitting a project.
40:20 We are looking at about 100,000oz of Gold equivalent production here, starting in 2030. We completed an initial assessment earlier this year in May that looked at that production profile of about 100,000oz of Gold a year. You can see the NPV of the project. And what's quoted here is the base case price, which was a $2,200 Gold. If we do this today at our US$4,000 Gold price, or in that neighbourhood, it's about a US$600M NPV. And what I really love about these kinds of projects, these high-grade projects, they have really quick payback. In the case of Johnson Track, our payback is a little over a year at the base case of US$2,200 Gold. And at US$4,000 Gold, it's less than a year.
41:13 So these are high-quality projects. If We go to the next slide, you can just see how these stack up. I'm sorry. No, I wanted to explain the DSO model because I think our shareholders are very familiar with it, but I wanted to explain what it is and what it means, especially for the DALY shareholders. So DSO, direct shipping ore. And basically, what you're doing is you're mining at the face. I've chosen an underground mine here in the photo, but it works just as well for open pit mines as we're demonstrating with the Moncho project. And basically you're just loading this ore in a box and then that box is really easily transportable, moves around with a forklift.
41:59 It has a lid so that you're not getting any fugitive dust around so that helps from an environmental standpoint. That's loaded either onto a truck or onto a rail or onto a barge, just depending on what your local infrastructure is like. For Johnson Track, we anticipate pulling on a truck and hauling it down to a barge landing site and then putting it on the barge. This is the same way we envisioned for the Kitsault project. The key things here are, You've got to be close to infrastructure. And if you're close to water, you're close to infrastructure. So again, that's where Johnson Track and Kitsault have this great synergy. You're not building a mill and you're not building a tailings facility.
42:45 Those are expensive to build and they take a long time to permit, especially if you need to get an air quality permit, if you have to put an onsite power plant to run a mill and a tailings facility. They take a lot of energy to do those things. And So by not building a mill in a tailings facility, you are reducing your environmental footprint at site. You are reducing the amount of things that need to be permitted. And of course by not building a mill in a tailings facility, you are saving yourself a huge amount of dollars not building those at site. So that's the beauty of the DSO model. What does it require? It needs to – you have to have projects with grade. You've got to be relatively close to infrastructure, and it's – We like projects that are simple and high-grade can carry some mistakes because you're going to make a few mistakes doing things and not make all the right calls.
43:45 But when you've got a high-grade deposit, you can make that usually a great pace for everything, as Sean mentioned earlier, the greatest king in our world. This just shows the 3 projects stacked up. And Sean mentioned this, we're on a track. We're currently producing 60,000oz of Gold a year. With Lucky Shot, we get up to that 100,000 mark and then with Johnson Track, 200. And obviously we add on Kit Salt here and we just continue to grow. And as I mentioned earlier, great exploration opportunities at all 4 districts. And I will leave it at that and turn it over to you, Sean. Okay. I hope as my shareholders went through that, they could see, you know, that's a high grade strong portfolio with a great team. And it's what attracted me to want to do this business combination.
44:45 For the Katango shareholder, you know, we're looking at a part of Northwest BC, just south of Alaska, just south of your projects. It's accessible by road, by sea and by air. I'm in Vancouver. It's about a 16-hour drive to site, or it's about an hour and a half flight. And I'll summarise the Golden Triangle by saying, in the last 30 years, when we have seen infrastructure, we've got hydroelectric power, we've got roads, We've got a deep water seaport at Stewart. When the infrastructures come in, in the last 3 decades, 150Moz of Gold have been discovered. 150Moz of Gold and 1.2Boz of Silver.
45:36 This is an area that's hosted the most profitable Gold mine in North America, the Premier Mine. It hosted the SK Creek discovery, which was discovered in 1989, hole 109. SK produced 3Moz at 49g per tonne. 160Moz of Silver at over 2,200g per tonne. And then it was the Bruce Jack mine in 2017 that started operating that's now operated by Newmont. So what this area is, is what one of the richest 20km on planet earth for Silver and Gold. And what my strategy has been at Dolly Varden over the last 5-years is to systematically put together a portfolio that now includes 5 past producing high-grade Silver mines, very, very famous Silver mines and 100,000 hectare land position.
46:39 We've got a large mineral inventory that currently sits at 64Moz of Silver and 1Moz of Gold. And we're looking to do a new 43-101 compliant resource estimate. We've done a lot of drilling, just under 200,000m of drilling. And the guidance I've given to my shareholders is my expectations are a 50% increase in Silver, a 50% conversion on the Gold side from the inferred ounces into the indicated, and a 50% increase in the grade of those converting ounces. So where I think we're going to land is the guidance I've given is I see a project going from 64 million ounces of Silver to 100 million ounces of high grade Silver, 300 gram material.
47:36 On the Gold side, our indicated grades are over 7g per tonne. And we have a lot of confidence in the continuity of our ore body and the grade. And again, access is everything in our business. We've got supportive local the continuity of our body is everything in our busi partners. You know, I the Nishka creating bu we're bringing technical I work here in an office that has worked with the Nishka, creating businesses with the Nishka. And so we're bringing relationships, we're bringing technical expertise, we're bringing high grade resources, and we're bringing a team that has worked in the area for decades and decades and decades. Our VPX, Rob Van Egmont, was there when the snip mine was discovered in the 80s.
48:29 Rob McLeod was born and raised a third generation miner from the district and has got great relationships. So we've got the infrastructure, we've got the endowment, we've got the relationships, we've got the scientists. Romeo, go to the next slide. So just kind of zeroing in, I gave you a snapshot of the Broader Goldman triangle with the last image where you saw the Bruce Jack mine. Now we're zooming in and Rick talked earlier in his presentation about underutilised processing facilities. There's an underutilised processing facility that you'll see just under the word Redcliffe. It's the premier mill. So you've got a permitted 2,500t per day mill that's hungry for ore.
49:16 And we've got one of the most advanced, large, high-grade Silver and Gold systems in the district. We've got a couple of images up here. The first image on the top left is a drill core from our home stake Silver deposit. We've got 2 main centers of gravity on the project. We've got the Gold-rich North, which is home stake, where we've got 1 million ounces of Gold and 20 million ounces of Silver. And then just south of that, we've got the historic Dhalivar and Silver mine, the Torbert mine and the new Wolf Discovery. And so starting at the Gold dominant North at home stake, We've got an image here of drill core that cut 26g of Gold over 14m.
50:08 Now we've taken a picture of a sample from the premier deposit from the 310 level. That sample was running about 300g per tonne. That drill core is running, that piece is running 433g per tonne. So as you can see visually here, similar geology, similar makeup, So very, very amenable to that facility. So that's home stake. And then just south of home stake, and I think this is what makes Dolly Varden truly unique. You know, in North America, there are 170 Gold projects that have a minimum of 750,000oz of Gold.
50:55 There are only 33 projects that have over 25Moz of Silver. And so, Silver, primary Silver mines are unique. They're rare. They represent 1 out of every 4 Silver ounces that gets produced. We have here a primary Silver system. We were highlighting a drill hole here, 1400g of Silver over 21m. I want to emphasise this is not in the 43-101. This is open. We've got about 80 drill holes pending. And I talked earlier in the presentation about the highlights from 2024 and 2025. The 80 holes that we're looking to report, the holes that we have reported have been exceptional.
51:46 It's open, it's high-grade, it daylights at surface, it's a wide deposit, potentially amenable to bulk mining. So it's got all the characteristics you want to see. This is not a Silver equivalent. This is a primary Silver system that as it moves North, goes Silver-Gold and then Gold dominant, like some of those famous projects, Premier, Eskay and Bruce Jack. And look, I talked about 5 past producing mines that we have in the portfolio. You know, the best place to make expansion, extension or new discoveries is around an existing mine. So The Torbert mine, which we're looking at right here, is a very, very special deposit.
52:36 We've got a drill hole here, 400g of Silver over a true width of 65m. Our VPX describes it as an ice cream scoop-shaped deposit. This was Canada's third largest primary Silver mine when it was operating and operated for a decade. So what we've done is we've come into the Torbritt, we've made discoveries around it. We're finding lookalike deposits like the Wolf, which is only a mile away. And we've got a number of these breaks. We've got a structurally controlled trend, the Kitsault Valley that's running about 10 miles from South to North, and every mile cross-cutting is another break.
53:28 And so we've identified so far 7 deposits. They start at surface. Most of them have only been drilled tested to 300m. Dolly Varden and Rick pointed this out, Katanglus got a phenomenal 5-year plan. What Dolly does is it extends that plan and now we've got a 20-year business and it's high-grade, it's safe jurisdiction, it's complementary to your existing asset base. I'm excited to get out these 80 drill holes that are pending that will all be out just after Christmas and into January. And then we'll take all that data from the 56,000m drilled this year and from the over 100,000m of drilling in previous years, and we'll put that into a new compliant resource estimate.
54:22 And with that, Romil, I'll turn it back to you. And I'll just jump in here a bit. I love Torbit. I think it's geologically fascinating, But from a development standpoint, from a DSO development standpoint, direct shipping or standpoint, this is a great place to start because there's a road that goes right to it from the water. So it's high-grade. You've got 30Moz here, I think is what we're looking towards. And it's something that you've got a road to, we can upgrade the road next year and start putting a plan together. So again, I'm really excited about this. Both companies have done a lot of due diligence on each other.
55:11 So from our side, we've looked at sort of lifted the skirt as they say, and the Dahle team has done the same. We visit each other's projects. So there's been a lot of thought and process go into this decision. And I can't be more excited to see where we can go from here. So Romeo, we'll wrap it up with the summary here. Look, complimentary assets. We're building a mid-tier North American Silver Gold company. We'll name the company Contango Silver and Gold. We've got exposure to non-diluted financing from the cashflow from Moncho. And we are very excited about the exploration potential of these 4 districts, but also the quickness using the DSO model that we can get these assets producing.
56:09 And I'll just say that the challenging part is putting metal in the ground, right? And you know, with the Mineral Endowment and with a track record of discovery, of looking at a hundred-year-old mining camp and coming in and making new discoveries. And what we've done is we've gone out and picked up 100,000 hectares of ground just around the Dolly Varden projects. And now we're inheriting and we're multiplying that by 5 times and bringing that discovery-oriented team to do the same systematic work to grow the portfolio. So, you know, discovery is the toughest thing to do in this business. Finding the metal in the ground is the toughest thing to do in this business. And with the enhanced capital markets profile of greater scale, greater liquidity, index inclusion, you know, We will have a currency, we will have cash flow.
57:08 It's for all these reasons that we are wildly supportive of the deal. It was unanimously approved by both boards. In addition to the due diligence that the management teams have done, both companies had special committees and worked with independent advisors providing fairness opinions to ensure that the transactions were in the interest of the shareholders. Romeo, let's go ahead and open it up for questions. Awesome. Thank you very much for that very thorough presentation. I know we do have an analyst on the line Marcus Giannini from Heywood Feel free to pop on and ask your question, then we'll get to some of mine We're having trouble hearing you Marcus to mine would move in a little closer to your microphone?
58:09 Not spectacularly. It does appear like the internet's not great. Oh, that is actually improved if you got it right now. Okay. All right. If you can hear me, I'll fire away so I won't hold you guys up too long. We're good, Marcus, we're good. Okay, cool. So yeah, first off, I guess, more of a question for Rick here, just taking a look at some of the Contango assets and obviously nice to see some production coming out of Mon Chaux. My question is really around mine life, longevity. How are you taking on the issue of replacement here at the operation? Given your exploration background, do you see much upside on the exploration and expansion front there at site or within the property in JV? Or is the idea really to buckle down at Lucky Shot and hit that 400,000oz, 500,000oz figure as sort of the next Ourosaurus?
59:00 Yes, I think we see the ability to extend the DSO mine life at Moncho, maybe a year or 2. That's kind of what we've been guiding. We're seeing as we continue to drill in and around the pit, We're seeing some bits and pieces here of mineralization. In terms of finding a new sort of a new DSO deposit on the Montreux property, We have not announced anything yet. We're still exploring. We spent about US$5M a year doing exploration. So that's yet to come. Now, there's certainly lots of exploration potential in the remainder of the property, but it may or may not fit the DSO approach. So to answer your question, that's why we are focused on advancing Lucky Shot and getting that into production as quickly as possible. And then the other projects, Johnson Track and now adding Kitsalt here, as I said earlier, we had a good five-year plan and now we've got a good 20-year business.
1:00:08 Okay, awesome. Thanks, Rick. That's really, really helpful. And then just one last one here, obviously, a few assets on the go with Lucky Shot, Johnson Tract, and the pipeline on the Contango side. And then just thinking about Kitsault Valley, obviously there's the updated resource slated for the first half of next year with the subsequent PEA. Sean, I guess this one's more pointed towards you, but should we assume a more muted approach regarding exploration capital at Kitsalt? You guys have had some large programs over the previous years and there's a lot of drill results to digest there on the exploration front. But just wondering how you approach capitalising on some of the exploration upside as you've highlighted some of those spectacular hits and the openness of multiple deposits at site?
1:01:01 Yes, Good question, Marcus. Our approach at Dali has always been data-driven. We never try to look too far until we have all the data. And we've had years, if I think back to 2023, we drilled more metres in 2023 than we did in 2024. And so we're always thoughtful stewards of capital. We envision a big programme so we're not taking our foot off the gas. The difference though is with Rick and his team, we are going to be looking for development and an eye to the future production to drive the next phase of exploration. So it'll be big meters.
1:01:52 There will be still a discovery oriented component to the exploration program, but we really want to look at, you know, this from an economic perspective, and that's what's really going to drive the next phase of exploration. Awesome. Okay, awesome, appreciate it. Perfect, got one from Tate Sullivan at the Maxim Group. It wants to know what the benefits of a Canadian company merging with a US company. He says he presumes the benefits might be a potential access to US government funding, but he wants to know if it's a negative signal generally of operating as a Canadian company. Can I just? Okay, well, I'll go first and then you tail off. Look, for me, I just have just something that I learned, which was in order to get into these big, like, you know, the S&P 500, You know, why are so few companies there? You know, it's not just a size factor.
1:02:52 And I think one of the things that we thought about when we looked at who is going to be top co, who's going to be the surviving entity, you know, many, many factors were considered, you know, tax drove the decision. But one thing that drove it for me was I wanted the surviving entity to be an American entity. As we look to grow this company, As we look into the future, and I envision a company here that's going to be valued in the billions of dollars of market cap, I want to be indexed in some of the biggest indices in the United States of America. So it's really important for me to have this company. You look at a company like Pan American Silver that's not a U.S. Co, they don't have the same advantages and benefits of a Hecla or of a Newmont.
1:03:41 I can just add, I think, from turning it around, And look, the Canadian market is a resource-focused market. And Sean, you've got a very strong retail shareholder base. And that's something we don't have. We started as a friends and family company 5 years ago, and we've got the New York listing, and we've grown our shareholder base, but it's mostly high net worth. And so I think it's just a great combination. And obviously with the Canadian property of access to flow-through financing, when you're financing the company at a premium. So I think there's a lot of advantages for Contango shareholders.
1:04:30 In terms of accessing US funds, that's something, it's always a possibility for projects in the US, but you don't need to be a US company as there's plenty of Australian and Canadian companies that are partnering with the US government to advance critical metals projects. So I don't see any sort of a downside there at all. And I just want to make a comment for all the Katango shareholders that are watching and listening. You know, we have shareholders in Australia, in Southeast Asia, throughout Europe. Dolly Varn is really, we've been on a mission since 2023 to make it a global brand. And so if you're a precious metals enthusiast globally, we've introduced the value proposition and we've populated and Romeo, before we hit go here, you were making the comment that the only place that wasn't represented was Antarctica.
1:05:24 We do have some friends that are traveling there soon. So I don't know if we can get a connection, but. Yeah, they can sign on for the next one. Now, I am going to go right to the half hour here, if you guys don't mind, don't have a hard stop. I'm going to try and adjust, so go through just a couple of my questions that I had, and then get to some of the biggest ones in the chat. But keep in mind, if I don't get your question today, Of course, I'll make sure the teams get them and they'll get back to you as quickly as possible. One thing, Rick, I wanted to just ask because Moncho's Contango is seeing $100 million in free cash flow in 2025. So with the combined company now holding 4 development stage assets, I just want to get inside both of your heads for how you're prioritizing capital allocation. What's the framework for deciding which project gets funded first? Well I think we've again, we've both done due diligence here and I think it's fairly obvious that that one slide there showed sort of the timeline over the next 3-4 years to get all these assets towards a development decision. And again, the DSO model really shortens the timeline because you're not permitting a whole lot of things.
1:06:31 It shortens the, or it reduces the amount of capital that you need to spend to get into production. And that's the luxury that grade gives you. If you've got a 1g deposit, depending on the strip ratio, you may barely get that ore to the edge of the pit. So, whereas high-grade, it just, it will make money. And so, you know, the schedule here sees, I wouldn't emphasize their exploration, they're still advanced stage exploration assets. So there's risk here, but we have demonstrated, I think both teams have demonstrated their prowess at being good explorers. And so when we say we are going to carry out an 18,000m infill drill program at Lucky Shot, I'm pretty sure we're going to hit the vein and I'm pretty sure we're going to hit grade.
1:07:22 Is there a risk that that grade doesn't add up to being an Eagle of mine? Of course there is, but that's the plan. And it's going to take a year to do the drilling. And by 2027, we'll know whether we have enough ore to make a mine. And we're fitting again, fitting the DSO model. The advantage with Lucky Shot is that it's fully permitted. So if we throw rocks in a box and we work out a deal with Fort Knox to process the ore there, which is very simple ore. It's quartz and Gold. It doesn't take rocket science to extract the Gold. That's the obvious next place to spend money, but we don't need to spend US$50M or US$100M there. We're just going to spend US$20M. And then Johnson Track, we've outlined the program there.
1:08:12 Sean's got plenty of money in the bank to finance the next 2 years at Kitsalt. I think these things just fit well together. There's not like we can't do 1 without the other or something like that. I think the beauty is the synergies between Johnson Track and Kitsalt. Their metal makeup is different. Of course, even at Kitsalt, it's different from the South to the North. It's silver rich at the South and gold rich at the North, But it's Gold and Silver throughout. And Johnson Tract, again, high grades. From a metallurgical standpoint, they're very similar sulphide-rich ores that can be processed through an appropriate mill. And again, that's the next step of what we're working on. And all I can say is we're under CA, so stay tuned.
1:09:07 And look, just one thing I wanna add to that is for the DALI shareholder. Yes, we have $60 million in the bank, but by combining with Katango and only having overhead for 1 company, really we could go and spend $20 million over the next 3 years at Kitsil and we're fully funded for that. You know, I still think a rocks in a box at Fort Knox would make a good t-shirt. So enterprising in the chat. There's a couple of things I know that I had my questions. We've already kind of gone over, but one thing, Rick, I don't think has come up or we haven't gotten into the details. I know Johnson Tech just received Fast 41 coverage in December. So for investors unfamiliar with that designation, what does that mean for the permitting timeline? And Sean, how does that compare to the regulatory environment in BC?
1:09:55 Yeah, so Fast 41, again, it was a program started under the Obama administration to help the permitting process. There's no secret that the permitting process in the United States is broken or not. It's just very dysfunctional. And so when you had to coordinate all these different agencies that have different agendas and different ways of doing things. The Obama administration recognized that if we want to get roads built, if we want to get windmills built and solar plants and mines and what have you, we need to fix this somewhat broken federal permitting system. And so that's what the FAST 41 program was the reason it was started.
1:10:41 And of course, with the focus on critical metals now, the FAST program has included mining projects. And so what it means is it's coordination, but it's a dashboard that goes on a website where the lead agency, and in our case, that'll be the US Army Corps of Engineers For the Johnson track project that's typically the case because you usually have to always build a road and you're you're going to be impacting wetlands And so the US Army Corps of Engineers is the oversight federal oversight agency for that. So what it does, the FAST program gets all of the agencies, all the federal agencies have to take a federal action to coordinate through the FAST program.
1:11:32 In this case, the federal action is driven by our wetlands permit that we'll need to build a road between the mine site and the port site. The easements have already been granted. So there's not a federal action from the Department of Interior. But there is, because of the requirement to get a 404 permit, a wetlands, what's called a wetlands permit, that's where the federal action takes place. And so that's the US Army Corps of Engineers. They'll coordinate with the National Park Service. And so the easement is across Park Service land, which is Department of Interior and the National Ocean Atmospheric, is that now? No, what? National Oceans and Atmospheric, whatever it is. I can't remember. So those are the 3 main agencies.
1:12:20 EPA is always involved and they have an oversight role for clean water, clean air. Again, we're not building a tailings facility, so there's a lot less controversy in a project that doesn't have a tailings facility. So, which is again, another beauty of the DSO model. But that's a bit of a background on the FAST-41 program. And look, From my perspective, British Columbia had a bit of a reputation in the 70s and 80s as going from a really pro-mining jurisdiction to becoming a tougher mining jurisdiction. So we created an organisation back in 2017 called the BC Regional Mining Alliance. It was actually a government-funded organization.
1:13:06 I'm a director of the organization. It's a partnership between Indigenous groups, companies and the British Columbia government. The idea is to promote that BC is open for business. And when we talk about the province, we look at it in certain jurisdictions and areas. So in the case of Daly Varden, you're dealing with a Brownfield site that has seen production operations since the 1890s. It's industrial. And so, we permit mines in BC. If we look at Artemis, which is arguably one of the best performing, best executed companies on the board, with I think about a $6 billion valuation, the BC government handed out permits for the Blackwater mine, Caribou got its permit, Premier got its permit.
1:13:59 And so It's really, really simple in BC. If you respect water and you respect First Nations, you get permits in a timely manner. And the fact that this office has built a reputation working with indigenous groups, and the fact that I am a director of this alliance, the BC Regional Mining Alliance. You know, it's and I think the best thing that ever happened to us, Rick, was Mr. Trump, because as soon as he came into office, our politicians wanted to move in a thoughtful way, but they wanted to move a little bit quicker. There you go. I do want to get to some of the questions in the chat before leaving you both with an opportunity to give some final words on this proposed merger. I'll do a couple ones from the chat. 1 first, actually, this is a combination of 3 questions. I love people already looking ahead to the next thing on the day you announce a proposed merger, but will the merge go look to do further M&A in BC, or is that enough on your plate right now with existing projects?
1:14:58 I'll let you start there and Rishan, chime in as well. But look, we think we're building a rocket ship here. We've got capital, we've got grade, we've got great management, we've got a great board behind us. We see lots of other opportunities. Sean and I have been comparing our lists. There's overlap. There's some things that are similar. There's some other new ideas. I think this is a great platform on which to build a multi-billion dollar company. So that's my perspective. And I think you're going to hear the same thing from Sean. The way I see this going, and I think a lot of shareholders are going, OK, well, what's next? And what's next will be shareholder meetings in Q1.
1:15:45 And our shareholders will then vote on the transaction. And we envision closing this in March and combining. And what I wanna do is I wanna get out and I wanna share the value proposition to unlock the value in the projects that we existingly have. But at some point, I'd like to be hosting another event like this in a year where we are announcing another big transaction. And we're in an environment right now where There is still a great disconnect between commodity price and equity price. And, you know, Rick and I have been monitoring projects for decades and sometimes that's the approach you need to take. You need to wait until the right moment in the right time, be disciplined And we'll 1 day share the origin story of how we got together on this transaction.
1:16:35 But maybe we'll do that at a timely matter. But we do have a list. And but the first thing is, let's explain the rationale here. Let's get the appropriate rating. I don't think, I think there's a number of catalysts. The Lucky Shot drilling, the Kitsil 43-101, every quarter that goes by that the JV produces that production, re-rate, re-rate, re-rate, share the value proposition. And what we're seeing in the market is more and more companies are getting picked off, right? And so those funds need to go somewhere. And Like I said, with $50 billion coming into ProformaCo, that's gonna cause a re-rate and we'll see where our list sits and we'll monitor that. But this is the beginning of many transactions. Companies that are successful in this space, Agnico that started like Dolly at a US$20M valuation, that's now US$120M, now US$120Bn.
1:17:40 You're constantly, as you're depleting your mineral inventory, trying to replenish it. So We're well aware of that and we're going to be thoughtful and we'll do it at the right time. Awesome. Rick, a quick one for you. How much more revenue comes in once the hedges are off at Muncho? About 70%. There you go. Okay, that was easy. 1, speaking of governments, might the US and Canadian or BC governments provide free money grants for any of the 4 projects? Has any government funds flowed to the projects to date? I can answer from my side. No, no government funds have flowed to the project as of now. Right now we don't have any specific plans. We're fully financed to do what we want to do.
1:18:26 If there's something interesting to do with federal government, we'll certainly take a look at it. From my end, we've got, as Rick pointed out earlier, the tax advantageous flow-through expenditure credit. So that's a way to minimize dilution and it's a way for those expenditure credits to flow through to the investor. So that is a government initiative that encourages exploration and development. We've got something called the Canadian Infrastructure Fund and we have put in a application to receive some government money to study things Rick talked about, the roads, the existing roads that we have that go from Tidewater to Torbrett. So we've put it in for a grant, a $10 million grant to get government funding to pay for infrastructure improvements.
1:19:18 And then lastly, the government is looking to do interest-free loans to Indigenous groups who will then turn around and make investments. So that's another mechanism that we can pull on as Indigenous groups like the Nishka. You know, Nishka now are the largest, they own the largest stake in a public company for an indigenous group, and they're looking to make more investments. And if they can get an interest-free loan from the Canadian government to make that investment, that's a big incentive. And that'll obviously come in at a much lower cost of capital than going to traditional capital markets. Awesome. Appreciate that. One person has also reflected in the question over email. Somebody notes they invest in Contango because of the very low share count? They're just looking for Rick's reassurance that there isn't going to be significant dilution to Contango shareholders because of the merger.
1:20:09 Yeah, I mean, obviously we're combining and so there's a 50 percent increase in the number of shares because we're combining on a 50-50 basis. So we'll have a number of 31M shares outstanding. I don't consider that dilution when I'm adding high-quality ounces of Silver and Gold that are, I'd say, are equal to Johnson Track. Johnson Track is an incredibly unique high-grade deposit, but so is Kitsault Valley. And so I see, that's where I don't see that. I don't count that as dilution. If I'm adding high-quality ounces, and keep in mind there's 200,000m of drilling that hasn't been incorporated into the resources that are currently on Dolly Varden's books.
1:20:57 So I don't consider this that dilution. I think we still have our, the five-year plan remains intact in terms of getting our production up towards 200,000oz. Kitsol just, as I said, that takes that five-year plan and makes it into a 20-year business model. And as we've talked about a platform that we can continue to grow the company and just with looking at production, looking at other DSO models. Awesome. I do want to zoom in and give you both an opportunity to speak to your shareholders here. I'll say, zooming out, looking at the combined entity, we've got production, significant cash flow, dual listed status, pipeline going from exploration to development. For investors looking at the story today, what are you most excited about delivering?
1:21:45 Basically, my question to both of you is, billion dollar market cap is cool, but what's taking you guys to 2 and 3 and 4? Rick, I can start with you. Well look, I think you start with, you know, everything always starts with the people. I think you've got 2 companies that have demonstrated successful track records of executing their business plans. I think Sean and I, we have different backgrounds and different approaches, but they're very synergistic. I'm looking forward to working with him and the whole team there to build, to use this as a platform to continue to build the company. Next up is the assets themselves, and as we've talked about, they're high-grade, they're in a tier 1 jurisdiction.
1:22:32 Our assets are all on private land. So in the United States context, that definitely means it's a lot easier to get permitting done. And of course, we have, you know, Sean mentioned President Trump, and he is all about critical metals, and he's all about Alaska. The man just absolutely loves Alaska. So we want to take full advantage of that and advance our projects. We want to do it thoughtfully, and the FAST 41 doesn't, it's an acronym that I think is a bit misnamed. It was to advance the federal highways, getting things permitted. I can't remember exactly what it stood for, but I guess some intern in DC decided FAST would be cool. But at any rate, we want to take advantage of getting our projects permitted and I'm speaking mainly to Johnson Track, but to use this as a platform to build this company to a multi-billion dollar company.
1:23:41 And Sean mentioned Agnico Eagle. I think that's the crown jewel of how to build a company. It started with a nice high-quality asset in Eastern Canada, the Laurent mine, which is still going. But from that base, they built probably one of the highest quality Gold and Silver mining companies out there. So that is our ambition. And I think we're off to a great start here. Great. And Sean, I'll let you close it off today by just speaking to your crowd, but generally what you're excited about in the next year. Yeah, well, you know, I think back to when this new management team came into Dolly Varden and we asked shareholders to trust us and get behind us. And, you know, It's been a good exercise for those shareholders. They're up 600%.
1:24:37 They've seen us build a business through making acquisitions, through leveraging capital into science and making discoveries. For me, in order to make that leap to 2, 3, and beyond billion, we needed to partner. We needed to partner with a group, somebody like Rick, who's not only got the portfolio, the cash flow and the pipeline, but also has the credibility through companies like NovaGold and Trilogy. So I think I'm really excited because In this business, trust is everything. You've got to work extremely hard. You've got to get lucky. But we've now got 4 assets under current management that have a lot of upside and, again, a larger enhanced platform to continue to grow.
1:25:33 Awesome. Well, gentlemen, Sean, Rick, thank you so much for going through this presentation. Thank you everybody who joined. Like I said, a pretty enormous geographic representation in the audience today. Thanks for all your questions. I know I didn't get to all of them, but I will be making sure the teams get them and the replay will be available probably in about an hour, hour and a half, so that'll pop right in your inbox. It'll be available on Six's YouTube channel as well. But everyone in the room, Rick, Sean, thank you so much. I hope you