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18:51 structural control domains that we can extend. We can do that. But at the end of the day, the project is really severely under-explored, undervalued, but also under-explored. The footprint of the Torres deposit is just over 1 square kilometer, and our land package is 590 square kilometers. So we have a lot of room to grow. And at the end of the day, we've got to drill where we drill. Sorry, I think I lost your net there for a second, but I think we're back.
19:36 Now, one thing I know, you mentioned this is an important region in British Columbia. Just for the investors in the room who are new to the Casio story, I know there's a number of them just based on the data I'm looking at. Can you elaborate on what makes the region you operate in attractive from an infrastructure permitting and operational standpoint, just compared to other gold districts? Yeah, I mean, there's so many things that makes the region. I mean, this is a gold rush area. In the late 1800s, a 72-ounce solid gold nugget was found right at the heart of our property. So that was kickstarted the gold rush in our district. You know, there's 5 pest-producing mines. You know, There's been a lot of mining development in our region.
20:26 It's a mining region, there's a lot of infrastructure already in place. We have provincial highway 37, we have the Castor Pave Road going straight to the TOR's deposits. We have, you know, mine permits already in place. We have grid power, we have water, we have, you know, pretty nice-sized camp. We have portals, tailings facilities, a full unit permanent mill. This is a very significant infrastructure that first and foremost, it really highlights how undervalued we are. Forget about the gold, just look at our infrastructure. And then you add on top of that all the resource that we have.
21:12 But also, more importantly, it really makes it all of these advantages make really add 2 benefits to the company. 1, it really allows us to operate extremely efficiently. And the second is, it really significantly lowers the barrier for development as well, because, you know, a lot of the infrastructure is already in place where naturally most new and exciting deposits are being found in the middle of nowhere, which is natural. But we're blessed to be finding or defining very, very sizable districts in an area that already benefits from all of this infrastructure and permitting and operational advantages as well.
22:04 Okay, great. Another kind of big picture question before I get to some of the stuff that was sent in over email, but for investors trying to understand cashier's opportunity, what would you characterize as the real differentiating factor of the project? Is it that near-surface nature of the resource, expansion potential, high-grade domains, or is it kind of all of the above or something I didn't catch? I mean definitely all of the above. I think I but I would maybe like the the 5 things I really like to highlight as our key, you know, differentiator or competitive advantages are 1, we have a team that has a track record of discovering, permitting, building, operating, selling billion-dollar gold projects, not only in Canada, but around the world.
22:55 The second thing is the infrastructure that we just mentioned, the paved roads, the power, the water, the mill, all the other infrastructure I already mentioned a couple of times in this webinar as well. The third thing is the resource, which at the end of the day, it's important to be honest with you. There's no point having all the infrastructure, you can only have gold to mine. So we already have a very substantial resource, but again, we've barely stretched the surface on this district. There's a lot of room to grow laterally. There's a lot of room to grow at depth. And we're just in the early innings of, you know, trying to understand how big this district really is. The fourth thing, and it's only 5, so bear with me. The fourth thing is really the fact that we are in a safe jurisdiction and we have mining permits and community support.
23:46 I can't emphasize this enough. You know, the world has become very small for mining companies. It's a really tough world out there. You know, some companies struggle to, you know, you go to South Africa, some companies struggle to access power because they have rolling blackouts. Or you go to Mali and the project and the government is taking over your project or taking some of your employees hostage, or you're in Russia and you're forced to acquire sailor assets because of the geopolitical problems that you have around the world or you have, you know, changing, you know, geopolitical landscape like in Latin America. So that's really the fourth. But the fifth one, which is, I would say also, you know, For me, one of the most, if not the most important, is really the valuation.
24:33 We're trading below $15 Canadian enterprise value per ounce on the ground. We're one of the cheapest ounces on the ground. With all of these benefits, that actually should put us at a premium. You compare our valuation to peers like, look at Artemis that just went into production earlier this year, or look at Thesis, or look at Citgo, or White Gold, or Skeena Resources. You can see that our potential for rewrite is enormous as we progress this and eventually get to a mining decision. So you'll be very hard pressed to find anything cheaper and with a better risk reward than what Caster Gold offered right now.
25:20 Awesome. So that's the end of my questions, and I think it covered a lot of the ones that came in advance over email. There was 1 before I get into the stuff that's in the chat, which I appreciate your patience, guys, in the chat. 1 that came over email is just if you could speak to the tech team that actually performs the drilling. Have you worked with them in the past and are you happy with their performance this last season? I mean, we have, there's, I don't know which one you're mentioning to. So we have like, you know, our geological team, our technical team, which are all in-house geologists. I'm very pleased with their work. They've been delivering year after year. They're really the brains behind the operation as we unlock the treasure that we have here at the Cast Your Gold project. If you're asking about the drill company, we've been using Hard Rock Drilling for the last 3 years.
26:11 They're actually very competent, quite efficient as well. We've been drilling at just under $190 per meter drills, which I like. Canadian, by the way, which is a testament to their efficiency, but also to the infrastructure and access that and the efficiencies that our project provides. So but you know, we're always open to any new contractors, you know, if you can provide a better service at a better price, We're always happy to consider anyone. Perfect, thank you. Going into some of the stuff in the chat, Baron asks, first he says, well done on the drill hole expanding Taurus. He's looking forward to the rest of drills in the PA, but he wants to know, how are we gonna prove the stacked vanes thesis?
27:04 Stacked vanes, I mean, well, we know we have stacked vein systems throughout the project. It's important to differentiate the 2 different styles of mineralization that we have in the Cassier North part of the project and Cassier South. Cassier North, we see for the most part very narrow veins that are typically in a centimeter scale, the thickness of those veins. In the South, they're on average 3 meters wide so they're like nice thickness those 3 meter veins So I mean in the north I think it's less relevant You know proving that you know stacking of veins or we see the We have this this concept of stacking of mineralization and I guess the way to demonstrate that is to do drilling.
28:02 Interestingly enough, we completed a 720-meter long drill hole at the New Coast targets, for which we actually don't have the assays, of course, they're coming soon. But we have released the core photos of that in September, so I'll encourage everyone to go and check the core photos. It basically looks like the type of drill core we see at Torres in the bulk-planet style mineralization of our targets. It's nice to prove that stacking, although it's a bit of a conundrum as well. We have so much potential at depth. These orogenic gold deposits can go up to 2-3 kilometers. To be honest, I'm not terribly excited to do a 3 kilometer deep drill hole. It sounds like a very expensive enterprise.
28:56 But also at the end of the day, we have so much room to grow laterally and we have so much gold at surface that it's much easier just to expand close to surface, which is also theoretically much more economical than just trying to go deep, deep, deep just to prove a geological point, as opposed to focusing on the ounces that are technically or theoretically much more feasible or economical, which are the ones that are closest to surface and could be put into a pit. To that stacking concept as well, it's not so much about the veins on the bulk tonnage. The veins provide a kicker.
29:42 They add some high-grade ounces. But At the end of the day, we're going to put everything through the mill. When you go through the higher-grade vein domains, you're going to get more ounces and better return. But We're going to process everything. It's more important on the southern part of the property where tagging those high-grade underground discrete vines, which are very juicy, where they might be. Where they might be. But also, the challenge there is, it's 3 meter wide vines, 2 or 300 meters deep or 500 meters deep.
30:29 It can be a little bit time consuming and frustrating to find them, but also, you know, there's a big, big upside to tag those finds and then to define them to eventually, you know, mine them. But we'll just continue to go from what we know. We have known mineralization at Taurus and at New Coast. And, you know, from there we're expanding, you know, the resource at Taurus. And eventually, we want to be able to put a resource at New Coast. Eventually, we want to be able to put a resource in the Cassier self-hydrated vines and continue to work from what we know and continue to expand mineralization in a very systematic approach. I appreciate that very much. One question I got here is, Do you have any plans and options to get the tailings processed as a standalone JV project to raise some drilling cash?
31:24 I get the question relatively regularly. We've had discussions with a couple of groups to process. I can't remember exactly. I think we have around 35 to 40,000 ounces in the tailings. Tailings are running around a gram to a gram per quarter. It's a decent amount of gold at current gold prices. That's what? 150 to 200 million? But you know what? One aspect is it could be a bit of a distraction. And also, the other aspect is, you know, 1 gram to a gram and a quarter, if you need to truck that for a few hundred kilometers, you can get quite expensive as well.
32:15 So like, you know, it's something we're definitely considering. And if we have a good deal to monetize that and, you know, create more space in our tailings facilities, while at the same time we can get paid, we'll definitely take that. Great, I Appreciate that. One question, somebody notes that despite a great story and improving results, there's still a large selling volume. They're curious where it's coming from, whether it's from a individual institution or if you know really where that big selling volume comes from. Well, I have no idea who's selling. It's a great question. All the institutions I speak with, they guarantee me that they're not selling a share. But we've had big, big volume, big, big turnover in the last 6 months. I think we traded like almost 100 million shares. We have 147 million shares outstanding. So I would say there's a good chance we have basically an entirely new shareholder base.
33:12 And it's interesting because all the new shareholders that I've met this year and that are, you know, have been accumulating significant, you know, like, you know, positions of millions and millions of shares each. You know, almost all of them see this as a 10 bagger. And when you look at our peers, it's hard not to see it that way. So in a way, I think what has happened is following the bear market 2022 to 2020, end of 2024, which was kind of really tough for the junior gold space and very, very tough for cashier gold share price. I think there's maybe some shareholder fatigue. A lot of people, I think, threw the towel way too soon. And I feel sorry for them.
34:06 I've been accumulating shares over the years through not so good times and some really bad times. Because you can whine about the share price because it doesn't represent the value of the company, or you can see it as an opportunity and buy something that is a lot more valuable for, basically, at a fire sale price. And that's what I've been doing. And I think a lot of these, you know, shareholders that have been coming in over this calendar year see the opportunity and they're saying what we're building and they're not here for, you know, to double or triple their money. They're looking to get a much, much bigger return. That's what Junior Space is all about, so I appreciate that.
34:53 Question from Bjorn in the chat. He asks, is it possible to do a 10K ton bulk sample from high grade and how much free cash flow could come out of that. NK what? 10,000 tons? I believe so, yeah. Yeah. I mean, we have, I mean, Why go for that? Why don't we go for 300 tons per day, get fired up the mill and start production? You know, why go for 10,000 tons only? That would be my reply. And I guess you know, The counter answer to that is we need a proper mining plan. We do also have some high-grade hits at surface, like just this press release that came out, 13 meters at 13 rems from 28 meters downhole.
35:44 It's not at surface, but it's pretty close to surface. Close. Sure. Yeah. We also have an intercept from a couple of years ago, just a few hundred meters north of this at Torres East area, where we hit 6.6 meters at, I think, 22 rems per ton from 4 meters on hold. So we have some high remuneration every once in a while on a belt stowage area. Again, this is not representative of the overall grade of the resource, but some just higher grade domains that we have within the overall deposit. But I think it's much more efficient to instead of just chasing some shining objects that could give you like a few a few, you know, a few million dollars or $10 million is actually really doing a proper plan and really properly assess the possibility of bootstrapping this into production.
36:54 And if you look at 10 to 20 grams per ton, which is kind of the grades that we see at the Cassier South, for example, from historical grades and recoveries. That's basically 35,000 to 70,000 ounces per year, which at current gold prices is a lot more attractive. We have a full yield in permanent milled as in good condition. And we have mine permits for that level of tonnage as well. So you know as opposed to try to do a bulk sample and ship or and lose a lot of value and only recover so much value out of the goal by letting whatever offtaker take most of the value, we could actually wait a little bit longer and do it properly ourselves.
37:44 One last question I got from the chat, and we're already a bit over the time. I said we'd be today Steve asks do we have timing for the PEA? Yes, the first half of next year for stuff next year easy answer Marco, thanks so much. I know you're coming off of flu. So particularly appreciate you giving some extra context to yesterday's press release. Everybody who joined, thank you so much for being with us today. Really appreciate your time. And if you have additional questions you think of the perfect one to ask right after the webinar ends, as I usually do, Please do still send it in. I'll make sure the Casio Gold team gets it. But Marco, thanks so much. Hope you have a great end to your day. Thank you.