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24:02 But we also have projects in the United States, like I said, you can get in there fairly freely, of course, you have to quarantine when you get out of the country. But going into the US has actually been pretty straightforward and easy to get into because mining is an essential business in the US, and so it hasn't really been an issue. Zambia, we're operating in as well, and that hasn't really been too much of an issue. Of course, there are supply chain delays. I mean, getting stuff in and getting stuff out, There can be some delays. This year we experienced some delays with getting drill assays back. But all in all, because we have independent teams working in each country, it's actually been pretty good so far. We haven't really had any interruptions. Wonderful, Neil?
24:51 Yeah, so I think I highlighted before, obviously the country took a pretty proactive stance, pretty and really very aggressive, thankfully, early in 2020 when things were starting. So the country did close, and obviously we can't get expats in the country freely, but we were able to operate and because we were able to bring our production online for the first time ever, start up a mine, operate and produce almost 35,000oz profitably in our first year during COVID. For us, we manage, I would say obviously, we all know, and every investor and mining company knows globally, there are some logistic issues that you have to deal with. Delays on the labs, because at some point all these countries were locked down and this creates a queue. So even when the deal opened up, there was still a lab. So let's say us getting lab samples, or sorry, samples out of the country even to Canada for our phase 2 expansion or Feasibility Study. You saw some impact there in terms of delays of getting stuff out as well as in the country.
25:56 Procurement, there's always that worry about procurement that it could be delayed in terms of bringing chemicals on site or key equipment while we're in production today. It hasn't had a material impact yet. We're mindful of that and you have to be, but certainly that's something everyone is dealing with. Most people understand and expect that there's always a buffer of time here. When we say we want to accomplish something in a certain period, everyone understands that it may not be achievable given that. So we've seen that for exploration, for example, our ability to restart exploration earlier, maybe late last year when we wanted to because there was a lockdown in the country. You could still operate and produce, but you couldn't start new exploration for example, during lockdown.
26:41 So you're seeing some of that, but luckily we've been able to build our balance sheet and become stronger in the last year in terms of that strength. And we haven't seen any real hiccups as yet, maybe just a few months delay here and there in terms of delivering a Feasibility Study or whatnot. So nothing material yet, it's more phase 2 where you might see a little bit of delay. And the last piece is, of course, getting people in the country for debt packages. If you're looking for international lenders to build your second mine, which is our plan here, certainly it's hard for them to send people for due diligence when they can't get in the country. Some people have the ability to get locals to do that on their behalf, but I think that's where you're seeing it today. But again, the government has done a great job in mitigating the issues for us. So we're very thankful for the measures they took.
27:33 Great, thanks. Steve, what do you think? What's, how's COVID? We, so Cambodia is feeling COVID today more than they have over the last year and a half or a year, I'm sorry. So really it's the first time that COVID has reared its head, so to speak, in a very significant way. So Cambodia has put Phnom Penh into a lockdown scenario, but Accessing into Cambodia has been very limited over the past month and a half. And previous to that, if you were to land in Cambodia, you were mandatory quarantining in a government-run hotel for 2 weeks. It was never, It's not been, it's, they've made it safe enough for international travelers to arrive, but they did so in a very methodical way and in a controlled way.
28:28 Unfortunately though, COVID has started, has had a fairly significant impact in recent weeks, especially recent months. Now all of last year, we had a full-time team on the ground. So as I mentioned earlier, our VP of exploration, Denis Ouette, lives full-time in Cambodia. So, our team has been in place and exploration has continued, but you also, we have a down period during the rainy season. So, a number of months that we typically wouldn't be very active on the exploration front. It's more when we're cataloging core and doing the housekeeping work during the heavy rains. Our work programs began in December, but we have been able to continue working, albeit at a perhaps a lesser rate than what we would previous years, but we have continued, we've maintained safety protocols and managed that process throughout. And we've worked really closely with our local communities to ensure that they have safety masks and hand sanitizer and what we can to identify issues and we try and help work with them to rectify or to fix or to address these issues. So, you know, our chairman, Mike Weeks, flew in in November into Cambodia, went through his quarantine process, and he's still there now, 6 months on, and he may stay for
30:00 another 6 months, depending as this lockdown has continued. There is no travel between provinces at this point. It's very significant. They're taking it very seriously. And we're working with our community and provincial heads as much as we can to help, to assist and to help. Absolutely, thank you for that. And much like how it seems most meetings with family are, let's get off of that topic, right? Everyone's tired of talking about COVID at this point in the day, I guess. But, and again, this will be a question I want to pitch to the field. So feel free to answer if you have something to crop up, but how should investors view the Asia Pacific region for mining? Not only now, but in the future. Are there trends that you're aware of that you look to to see that the investment community at large should be more aware of or pay attention to, but not only for the countries you operate in, but the region at large as well?
30:59 I can start off with, I mean, for us at least, even though Japan is a fairly mature country and has a fairly significant economy, that economy has actually struggled in the last 20-25 years or so, and so It's interesting because they've opened up the country for the first time to foreign investment and allowing Western companies to enter the country and that's kind of unusual. You know, typically as North Americans are used to operating in the Americas itself or maybe even in Africa or somewhere like that. But you don't see a lot of investment, I would say, from the Western companies into these areas. And so I think Japan is just kind of virgin territory for new exploration.
31:47 And the fact that you have Barrick is involved with Japan Gold, you have Newmont involved with Irving Resources, which are kind of our peers in the area, that actually, that has to show that there's interest for the larger companies to come into these areas. And so that's certainly very good for support for us. And then you have B2Gold supporting us with our exploration activities there. So we just think that there's just tremendous, you know, exploration upside from here on in. I think if I'll just jump in quickly, I think it's really important. And we may, we've mentioned this a little bit earlier, but just the greenfield exploration, you know, The fact that so many of the countries in the region are underexplored, don't have necessarily those base data sets to draw on. I think we're going to see a tremendous amount of excitement for the region over the coming decade, as more of these majors are paying attention.
32:52 And virgin territory is harder and harder to come by. I think it's fair to say that the majors have looked around the world and done what they can to identify the lower hanging fruit. And a region or a country like Cambodia that is still, you know, we're still barely scratching the surface from an exploration perspective. On the hard rock side, You look at a country like Cambodia with potential for oil and gas, when you have assets operating all around the country, it's pretty hard to come up with a country as another example where there hasn't been a single drill hole put down on shore at depth for oil and gas potential.
33:39 I think it's extraordinarily exciting the opportunities that a country like Cambodia and others present, And I think that the world is paying attention to Southeast Asia and Pacific region as a result. And the market is supportive of that because, you know, we're entering into a pretty interesting super cycle, I believe, for the resource sector. So it's an exciting time moving forward. And when you've got a supportive country like Cambodia that's trying to become self-reliant for energy and rely on natural resource development as a key driver for economic growth. All of those factors play into the potential. And that's pretty exciting for us.
34:28 Yeah, I mean, you guys did a good job answering the question, but yeah, the region, again, just to reiterate what they're saying, it's underexplored. You're seeing majors come in, obviously in Japan, right close to where we are in Nepal, with BEREC and Newmont. So there really is not many frontiers remaining, and I think people need to understand that ESA provides probably one of the last frontiers. It's like going into Africa a few decades ago, which these majors have already done and picked off, so offers a lot of exploration. There's been big discoveries and deposits in all these jurisdictions. For someone like Mongolia, we have obviously a super major in there already, but that's for focus on the copper side with Rio Tinto. And I think at the right time, you're going to see very similar strategy.
35:16 The major is trying to get a toehold into virgin territory where you have a lot of exploration potential. You have now a pro-mining, pro-foreign investment government. So the Mongolian government signed an asset protection agreement with Canada in 2017. Singapore was the first country before then. They're saying all the right things, they've confirmed and learned from their mistakes. It's still, these are functional democracies, but still new, I would say. And so they have their usual growing pains over the last couple of decades. But a lot more to offer, I think that people are starting to see, so we're obviously positioned well to take advantage of this, what could be a super cycle coming out of this recovery.
36:02 Great, Thank you guys. I mean, it's always amazing to hear insights like this, especially from people that are operating there on the daily. And to talk about a country is one thing, but to also talk about a region as large as the Asia Pacific regions is another. Steven, what catalysts is your company working towards in the coming years, specifically, just to narrow the focus a little bit in the conversation? Our ongoing work program at Wild Boar is our priority target right now. And we actually have an IP team on the ground right now. They've probably got another 2 to 3 weeks of work to do. There's 2 separate IP programs being shot. One's 250 meter at depth and the second is up to 500 meters. And we're basically, we're Tracking, we identified a series of shallow dipping quartz veins through our pitting and trenching program that we're following up and we're trying to identify what's the engine behind that, what could possibly be below in situ.
37:04 Is there an intrusive in place there that is the engine behind what we've seen near surface? So the work that we've got complete, that we are in the process of completing right now is of major importance. Marrying that with all the mapping, the geophysical work that we've done, we'll then get to targeting. And then we'll be drilling somewhere around the 1,000 plus meter range of diamond drilling when we're getting all this done before the rain start later on in the summertime. And then the second big catalyst for us is reengaging on the production sharing contract negotiations with the Cambodian government. So once those negotiations are completed, We acquire full access to Block 8. And then I, myself and my team have been in various conversations with potential strategic partners and looking for that right fit to move the oil and gas story forward.
38:05 We'll need to be shooting mag, seismic, and eventually getting a data set to a point where we are comfortable targeting for drilling. So we've got a lot of work and a lot of excitement coming forward in the next months. It's great to hear. Anil, what catalysts is Stepgold looking towards? Yes, quite a few. Obviously, we are a producer today. In short order, I think by the end of May we're actually listing on the Mongolian stock exchange. So, it will be a mini IPO, you know, giving the demand in country for locals who want to own assets in their own country. Like I said, we always consider ourselves a Mongolian company anyways, listed on the TSX. This was the right move to potentially increase liquidity, but allowing all the domestic investors there to trade our stock with ease. It's very difficult today for investors in Mongolia to try to buy shares.
39:07 So this new alignment with the Mongolian stock exchange, where I think we're going to see a lot more demand, the very minimal 1% share offering here. It's not a capital raise, but you're going to see a lot more demand I think pick up there. It's another step of us showing that we want to be as Mongolian as possible or at least allow for Mongolians to have the ability to own our stock and also gives the employees who will have shares of the company in Mongolia to see what the value of those are. So, by the end of May, we think that will happen. So, that's a great step. Exploration restarting on both of our properties. So, we have 2 exploration programs going to be starting in a matter of weeks, starting with the UK project, which is an undrilled licence, never been drilled, but we did all the groundwork, IP, magnetic soil sampling and trenching.
40:01 Now we get to drill for the first time ever. So that's exciting, self-funded exploration that we're going to start on that project. And then we're going back to ATO and Munk where we're in production and we start exploration there this summer as well. So, you know, lots of news flow on both projects. And obviously ATO and Munk, we just announced doubling our resource. Well, that's only down to 400m. So now we actually can look down at depth for more discovery drilling or at depth extensions, but also stepping out for the first time ever 1, 2 and 5km from the core deposits. So that's exciting new drilling and exploration. And then in the summer we're delivering a revised Feasibility Study, which will tell us how much the capex is for expansion into phase 2. And we'll actually start that expansion when we announce a BFS. So there's not going to be a year or 2 delay. Once you announce a VFS, you're actually going to start the expansion immediately. So it's a nice little mix of news floods, I guess, between expiration, expansion, and obviously cash flow. So that's our milestones as a catalyst for the coming year.
41:05 Thank you, Anil. Derek? Well, we couldn't wait to get our catalyst going. So we started with today. And so now that we closed the acquisitions in Japan, and as part of that, we also have B2 Gold coming in as our largest shareholder. So they're investing 7.5 million dollars into the company. So that's obviously a big catalyst for us. We now have about $11 million in the treasury, which is ample enough money for us to get exploring there. We haven't actually announced the exploration program, but I think that that's gonna be really interesting. We will have to at least fly some aeromagnetics and get some targets set up for us. But I think that because we acquired the company and the people included, personnel, especially boots on the ground in Japan.
41:50 That's going to be critical for us to set ourselves up for drilling over there. But secondly, in Idaho, we have a new resource estimate coming out for our South Mountain deposit. We'll also have a preliminary economic assessment completed by September of this year. And in Zambia, we'll have the largest drill program to date actually launching this year. And to Stephen's point, actually, we also have Jogmech involved with our company here for funding the project so they're putting in 1.5 million dollars a US into exploration this year so sorry this year and next year so yeah we should we have Joe Riggs turning on 3 projects this year and so we should have, I would hope, a series of catalysts coming up in the coming months.
42:40 That's wonderful to hear from all of you. Thank you so much for sharing. So I'll remind the audience that's in attendance today that you can of course use the Q&A poll on the right-hand side of your screen. We'll be moving into some questions and answers. So, you've seen the presentation, you've heard from what the panelists have said. Whatever strikes your fancy, feel free to submit your questions and we'll launch right into some of them that were submitted ahead of time. We have a question here from Terrence Ortslin who wants to hear from the panel about what your asset is, your operating and product sales protections within the mining and financial laws, and just go a bit more into detail about your investment itself. Does anybody want to speak to that right away? I can jump in right away.
43:26 Just, yeah, so obviously we are operating today. We are producing Gold and Silver bars in country, which we sell actually today all domestically to the central bank or central bank approved banks that buy on their behalf without any deduction besides the refining charge of US$2 per ounce on Gold and 1 on Silver, and then the government Royalty will be deducted as source to 5% government Royalty. But we get spot pricing, there's no export risk, quick sales cycle on our production. I think I mentioned that The country has signed an asset protection agreement with Canada, but also through the World Bank IMF and, well, Global Bank financing package for the OT project a few years ago, you know, there are a lot of strings attached with the government there. So there's no nationalization or expropriation type of opportunities for the government.
44:19 They're unable to do so. So we have another layer of protection where we don't have to worry about government trying to take over our asset or any of that kind of stuff. In fact, I think I mentioned the government has given us capital by investing in our company and they're actually giving us capital to grow and they want to increase gold production in country from primary sources and we're one of the leading companies that can actually provide that to them. So lots of good support from the banks, the governments in country. I think you'll see as part of our debt package for phase 2, we'll have some more capital coming locally from commercial banks within Mongolia before we actually bring in the international lenders. So again, just showing that alignment within the country of trying to provide capital to grow, because they see the importance.
45:05 And obviously a lot of protection measures in place. So that's the other step side. Wonderful to hear. Steve, Derek? I'll just give a quick answer. Thanks, Terrence, for your question. On the protection side, I think, you know, as an exploration company, of course, our business model has been primarily as a project generator. So we've had some asset sales. We look for partners, strong partners. We bring the understanding on each license up to a certain level. And then we bring a partner typically forward and use their dollars and their ongoing experience and expertise as well to build further value.
45:56 We've raised close to $20 million in USD over the years, deployed it on the ground. And that's been through partnerships, through asset sales. The wonderful thing about Cambodia is that there are no restrictions on foreign ownership. So we own 100% of our licenses. We do not have any local partners mandated or otherwise. We have the ability to right now focus on our 100% owned licenses. That's including the Cognac license and the Andamia license, without getting any further detail on that asset base. But that's that's that those are some of the protections that are in place right now. We own 100 percent of the licenses and and I'll leave it at that for now.
46:46 Thank you, Derek, would you like to speak to this question? Sure, I'll just add a little bit. For us, we're just getting into Japan, obviously. But Japan has been around for a long time and has rules and regulations that we can easily understand. They're fairly in line with Western policies and regulations. So from that standpoint, I think we're in good position. I would say in Zambia, it's a well-established copper producing district, so no issues. And I'd probably just add that our team, given that our greater team has operated in Russia, the Philippines, Nicaragua, Mali, Burkina Faso, I mean, if you can operate in these jurisdictions and do it well, which we have and our team has, I'm pretty sure you can operate in Zambia, in Japan, in the United States. I mean, you can certainly operate in those areas. So, yeah, I think that's about all I'd add.
47:44 Great, thanks guys. John Zadkiewicz has asked, is the panel seeing growing demand from investors to comply with or introduce strong ESG principles for projects in APAC? Yes, I would say you've seen that globally, not just in Asia. Globally, that's a theme that you're hearing all the time, it's continuing to grow. And I think COVID has exaggerated or expedited that need because now it's a green recovery now and it's not just between copper or EV, it's in terms of green and being as green as you can or the standards have increased. For us, I think we had already set up our company in the way we do business with that in mind anyway. So it wasn't a requirement. We were proactively, you know, to be working on being environmentally safe when we bring our operations online, education, the social side of, you know, we set up a meat and dairy co-op, we provide scholarships to the region, we sponsor wrestlers.
48:43 In fact I think we're doing a good job of, you know, even marketing in the country in terms of showing that you can do business, you can get the support. They're trying to mitigate or clear up some of the misconceptions or perceptions of the country in terms of risk profile, but certainly ESG and that social side we've been focusing on since day 1, so it's something that we weren't required to do. It's something that was already established and ingrained in the way we run a business, and I think you've seen that just how we ran our business with our CEO being local or our board are local, all our employees in country, so from that obviously the environmental comes in and the social comes in and we obviously have the government support as well.
49:30 From our perspective, I think that's a great question. It's a really important component to all business in the resource sector. Anchor started in 2009 with a very distinct plan, and that was to do business differently and to establish ourselves as a conduit, not just through strong linkages to government at the highest level, but to also ensure that we had these relationships established all the way down to the commune level. And it's because of those partnerships that we've established over the years that I think we're being afforded access and opportunities. For example, in the acquisition of the oil and gas block. It's because of our longstanding relationship in over a 12 year period.
50:17 And because the company has said what it's going to do, done exactly what we said we were going to do, and reported on it, that we've established these, this relationship. And I think ESG, I'm excited that it's taken hold. I think it's long overdue. It used to be corporate social responsibility, then it was social license, now it's ESG. Whatever you want to call it, It needs to be part of every mandate. The way we work with our local communities is in partnership. We've always said it's not about just a handout, it's about a hand up. The idea really has always been that we'll supply the training, we'll supply the materials, but if it's a latrine program, the locals have to learn how to build it. If it's a water sanitation program, they have to maintain it.
51:14 We need to work together, ensuring that these programs have as big of impact as possible and it's not about us mandating what's needed. We need to listen, we need to understand what those touch points are, local business development, whatever it might be And because of the work that we've done, we've been asked to present at the United Nations over the years at the IGF conference, because as a small explorer, we like to think we're hidden above our weight class, but it's vitally important. And it's very nice to be acknowledged at the highest levels where Prime Minister has mentioned us by name as be more like anchor and commit to your local communities, commit to the country and commit to economic development. And that's something we're very proud of.
52:04 Of course. Thank you. Derek? Well, 100 percent in agreement with both of the panelists here and I applaud what they're doing in their respective countries. I mean, for us, we're actually not producing any revenue at the moment. So we're still kind of early stages in the countries we're in. But because of our relationship, I think, with B2Gold, and we've kind of, I think, transferred those same kind of principles of respect, fairness, and transparency throughout all of our business. And because we operate in the countries with locals, so we have domestic people operating, whether it's in Japan, in Zambia or in the United States, that obviously everybody's working for the best interests of those people that live in the area, and everybody's going to benefit from what we're doing. And obviously do that in an environmentally and safe fashion. So I mean, if you're operating in the area, you're not going to destroy your backyard.
52:59 And so I think by employing that instead of just having expats working on each country, that we were in line with those same visions. Great, thank you very much for that. I think that we're getting close to time here, but we do have, if we're up for it, a bit of a rapid fire question. It's a little far-reaching, so if we can answer it as easily and fast as possible, as concisely. Michael Potter wants to know, how do you see the mining sector developing in the Asia-Pacific region over the next 10 years? So I'll hand it right to, back to Derek. What do you think? Well, I'm like literally just getting into it. We're day 1 into Japan. So I would say that there's there's tons of potential here.
53:46 I don't know the rest of the Asian districts as well as probably my fellow panelists here, but I would say that Japan is relatively virgin territory. I mean, it's interesting because when we were talking about getting into Japan, we have an advisor named Dr. Richard Sillitoe, who was sitting with our, which would be one of our directors, Clive Johnson. And it was saying that, you guys want to get into Japan. Well, I happen to actually know one of the best gold projects in Japan and he said the project's name escapes you right now but it'll come back to me and I guess the next day or 2 he did come back to me and he said yeah the project's name is Seta River. As it turns out the project that we one of the projects that we acquired is called Kato, which has actually changed its name from Seto River. So as it turns out, we have this project that Dr. Saito, who is a world renowned geologist, has said that he was very enthusiastic about getting his feet on the ground to drill that project.
54:52 So, you know, that's the type of opportunity that I think that Japan has, and I'm sure the other countries that are in Asia have similar exploration potential. That's great. Steve, what do you think the next 10 years looks like for Asia Pacific? I think it's going to be a boom. I think there's going to be a tremendous move in the direction of early assets coming to fruition. I think that Cambodia, Mongolia, Japan, Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, all around the neighborhood, there are exciting potential targets that are being explored. And I think that the Asia Pacific region as a whole is due for a really exciting 10-year window.
55:40 Awesome. Anil? Yeah, I echo the same as my peers here and We have a big run ahead of us and being in position certainly helps, but I think over the next decade, obviously the amount of investment in these countries and infrastructure, the world-class potential discoveries that can be made across all commodities, oil and gas, the base metals, the precious metals, I think you're going to see a big shift here. There's tier 1 type discoveries and tier 1 partners that are obviously already coming in. So it's a very exciting time to be positioned ahead of this next boom over the next decade. And what you're also seeing is a lot of relationship building between these countries. And so Mongolia for example, landlocked, heavily reliant on Russia and China is now growing relationships with Japan, Korea, you're seeing India.
56:33 All those countries are actually investing in 1 manner or another, whether it's infrastructure projects or getting into resources, building refineries, and you even have the Europeans now coming into Europe. So that's another wave that you're seeing, the Germans and others, Nordic countries now more interested in Asia Pacific region. So it's certainly exciting time to be in the region and it should be very, very exciting 10 years ahead of us. Amazing. Well, Anil, Derek, Stephen, that's all the time we have. So I just want to thank you for coming here and speaking. It's been wonderful to hear the insights that you've been able to provide. I'd also like to thank everyone that's been in attendance and watching. Thank you for your questions. Thank you for your time early this Monday morning. But with that, we are going to wrap it up. So I will say again, thank you everyone involved.
57:19 And with that, we'll be closing things off. Have a good rest of your day and stay safe, everyone. Thanks very much. Thanks, 6th. Thanks to my panelists. Thank you. Cheers. Cheers.