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24:48 specifically for the advancement of mining and exploration. And about a third of that is focused directly on our district. And a big chunk of that is putting a road system in from Dawson right down to the coffee mill. So again, anytime there's infrastructure investment in a district, that's huge. But this is particularly incredible for us because this road basically comes right through our entire land package, which as I mentioned, is probably one of the biggest I've seen. It's about 4,000 square kilometres. And it really unlocks the economics of any ounce of Gold you find anywhere. If you look at a mature mining camp like Timmins or Valador or anywhere else, any amount of Gold you find, you put in a trough and you bring it to one of the mills in the area. So now luckily we're going to have one here. I think our project is getting close to ready to be developed. So as this camp, this is a very significant step in the development of what I think will be one of Canada's most exciting emerging gold camps. So it's a huge, huge step and milestone for the district.
25:48 Thanks for that, David. Questions come in for the whole group. If you had to point to 1 thing that you believe sets you apart from your peers in regards to value potential, what would that be? Luke, maybe you could answer for Nucor. You know, new discoveries and resource growth. I mean, I've spoken about it a little bit, but as an advanced stage exploration company, ultimately building this to a 3 to 5Moz resource, I think at that stage you've got the size and scale that becomes attractive to any mid-cap or major company out there. And as we go through that process of growing this to 3 to 5Moz, de-risking the project by putting out updated PEAs to fundamentally underpin the value of the company is kind of the focus.
26:36 One thing I might just add to David's comment from a Ghana perspective, he's obviously focused in on Canada, but similarly, Newmont in Ghana, we're seeing them invest another $800 million into the country. That's a deposit that sits about 200 kilometers to the north of our Enchi project along the Safui-Bibiani Belt. I mean, for the largest gold company on the planet to be taking their production in Ghana from 14% to 20% of their total global production is a huge kind of vote of confidence for the company, both from a security perspective, as well as from a political risk perspective. So I think David's comments are very valid 1 in terms of when you're looking at jurisdictions, when you're looking at countries, it's important to look at what are the majors doing in those areas.
27:24 The fact that, you know, as David's highlighted, that Newmont's, you know, pushing this project forward, that the governments have all signed off on it is a huge vote of confidence. And when we look at that from a Ghana perspective, we've got 4 of the top 10 largest gold producers on the planet operating in country. Newmont's growing their, their production at 20%. As I highlighted, you've got gold fields at about 35% of global production. Kinross and Anglo are both at roughly 10%. So, I mean, again, that highlights what a great jurisdiction it is to be operating in. So just to add to David's comment that it is really important to look at what major companies are doing from that perspective. Absolutely. Thank you, Luke. And Neil, what's 1 point that separates the step gold apart from your peers in regards to value potential?
28:14 Well, yeah, I mean, obviously, we are significantly undervalued as a producer today. Given our cash flow generation this year alone, my guess is cash flow to current market cap, we're probably one of the cheapest. And I don't think that Mongolia discount is a reasonable reason anymore. We don't have any violence in Mongolia. You can build world-class mines. Rio Tinto just made a $5B bet by a $2.5B cash offer for shares. And obviously the follow-on CapEx that they'll spend there, that Turquoise won't be. So certainly undervalued. There's not many producers, I think, that can offer still a return of multiples. And that's what we offer without having to raise money to get there.
29:01 Absolutely. Thank you for that. Sean, what about Cordis Metals? What's the 1 point that separates you? Well, Cordis Metals is a new company with early stage projects, but it's got several of them And that is unusual. But I think the other thing we have that others don't is we're part of the metals group. So the metals group has several companies under its banner, including, well, first of all, the principals have been at this for 20 years. We were on the board and part of the discoveries at Kamenak and Coffee. We've been a part of Committee Bay and North Country Gold, as well as brilliant resources in mining. We've worked in Western Australia as joint venture partners that increase the reserves for our mining partners.
29:55 We've been in Africa and some pretty gnarly jurisdictions, learned some important lessons there about mining laws and barriers. And we're also in the Golden Triangle. Well, as we call it, the Golden Horseshoe, because it actually wraps around to the east on the east side of the Bowser Basin. In that project, we've dealt with 4 First Nations groups that have their traditional lands where our projects are. So We've taken all of this experience with these jurisdictions and we're applying it in Nevada to get a foothold there. We've seen our companies go from pennies to dollars and we've sold our projects for 500 million dollars as well. So there's a lot of experience here.
30:52 And I think that is what you're gonna see with Cordis Metals. Every week we've got an entire panel of technical people and at our disposal. We're at a low cost jurisdiction and a low cost overhead with our company. But what we deliver is a high-end capacity in technical marketing and corporate ability. So I think we're onto something here in Nevada and people should be looking closely at us. Thanks, John. And David, what separates white gold? I think fundamentally, the one main thing is just opportunity.
31:40 We're in this district that's one of the richest historical plaster mining districts on the planet. Seen over 20Moz of gold literally just sitting in the creek beds. And it really wasn't until 10 years ago that the first diamond drill got put into it. It's just people couldn't figure it out or weren't willing to invest. And it wasn't until Sean Ryan went there with some different approaches, utilizing different techniques to try and figure it out. And in that time, I truly believe he's cracked the code. He's figured out how to find these mineralized systems, shown an investment thesis and a little bit of work that's been done so far, the success rate is almost unheard of in this industry. He's had 2 major discoveries and these are literally from surface. So you have 20Moz of Gold.
32:28 The probability of having a lot more Gold beneath the earth are tremendously high. I think these major mining companies we've touched on share that view. The district is a great place to work. And as we continue to explore, I think, and as we continue to learn, our optimism is just increasing about the opportunity for more and more new discoveries. We see what works. We see what it leaves. We see what everything else has. We're talking surface exploration. We've had these 2 big discoveries. We've made our Betty discovery this year. The situation for that couldn't be better where it is. And on our 4,000 square kilometer land package, we see many, many, many more opportunities for that. So I think the upside of the opportunity to be able to basically own a district, which what we think is gonna be one of Canada's newest and most exciting emerging Gold camps to get in basically at the ground floor. It's like going back in time and buying 80% of Timmins 70 years ago or parts of Nevada or Quebec. I think those opportunities are very few and far between. That's what got us so excited as part of the Power 1 group to back Sean Ryan and this portfolio.
33:38 And then everything we've envisioned happening is continuing to happen. Right now, we've got to get out there to help people articulate the story. Unfortunately, we're still very undervalued here. We have some great analysts that cover us with targets close to US$3, and we're down at US$0.65. I think that the fundamentals are there. We have ounces in the ground. They're very high-quality ounces, Like I said, over 2g, open pit type stuff, those types of assets are getting more and more rare. But it's really this just unbridled exploration opportunity that we've shown our technique is working and we expect a lot more of that is what is getting us most excited and really what differentiates us from a lot of the companies out there. Great, thank you, David. Luke, another question from New Corp. Are there any concerns with the Ghanaian presidential election in 2024?
34:27 Do you think the NPP is likely to win again? I mean, if you look at the history of Ghana, it's been a very safe, stable jurisdiction for a number of years. You know, about a year and a half ago, we had an election in Ghana by all international observers. It was another free and fair election and that's consistently been the case in Ghana over a number of years. I think Ghana unfairly sometimes gets roped into West Africa and obviously We've seen a number of political issues and coups in West Africa in recent years. But again, Ghana has been removed from that for a long time.
35:14 And as a result, I would expect the next election, again, to be a free and fair election. And that's consistently been the case. And I would just go back to the point about, you know, 4 of the top largest gold producers on the planet with significant operations in country. You can listen to me all day say how great Ghana is, but look at what major companies are doing. They've got huge political risk teams internally, security risks teams internally. So the analysis that they do, I think should give investors that added level of comfort in terms of what a great jurisdiction it is. Oh, absolutely. Thank you for that, Anil. And you touched on this just just a few minutes ago, but with Rio Tinto's recent 2.7 billion dollar play in Mongolia, What do you think that means for others operating in the jurisdiction and for the future prospects of Mongolia as an investment jurisdiction?
36:09 I think it's great. It's the endorsement we need. I spent a few years spending a lot of time on meetings at the beginning talking about the Rio Tinto saga with the government. And it's explained that it wasn't a country-specific issue, it was an asset and a company-specific issue, which has been going on for 10 years. Yet that mine still got built, it still came online and expansion still moved. So it was too big to fail. And it's always continued, but a great endorsement in terms of that amount of capital, which is basically double that ticket price. We may end up going up as well because it seems a little opportune in terms of pricing and de-risking of turquoise over the last year. But a great vote of confidence. Obviously, that's a super major. It's the second biggest mining company in the world, making a bigger bet on Mongolia.
36:54 That's one of the biggest Copper mines in the world. When the expansion is complete, We tried to be the poster child to say that you can build and show us poke holes in our story. We built a mine with the government support and capital. So clearly it is a very investable, but now we need a big headline like that to help sway people. And so that's gonna make our job a lot easier when we're talking to people. It's obviously you can do things in Mongolia a lot quicker than and still with quality, by the way, than you can sometimes in Canada. Right. What we've accomplished in just a few years as a public company would probably take a decade in some jurisdictions that are tier 1. So a great vote of confidence. Really good news for Mongolia for us. And I think for you know in the future you're going to see others follow and hopefully the only way that they can make and follow is coming through the platforms like us as we continue to grow and de-risk our own pipeline and build that pipeline.
37:48 Fair enough. Thanks, Anil. Sean, a question is coming out. You had a PR go out last night, but is there anything that you wanted to highlight about it? What do you what do you feel is the most important there? Well, just the press release last night was about repricing warrants, which is something that we submitted to the exchange in December. I think that we could all agree there was kind of a...the market was not kind in the fall and we're a new company. We had, we saw our stock go from, you know, around 15 cents to 10 or 12 cents.
38:36 And so this news release yesterday is the exchange approving the repricing and extension of those warrants. That means that all of our warrants outstanding, which is about 24 million, are repriced to mostly 15 cents. Some of them, the lowest possible price was 15 and a half. And so these will, if they are all exercised, they would bring in nearly $6 million for us for our treasury, which is more than enough to, far more than enough to finance our business plan in Nevada. And there's a trigger on them, a 20 cent trigger.
39:24 So this is entirely achievable. People would see normal returns from discoveries in that range, I would think. And, you know, they would have a fair shot at exercising their warrants. This is also, we're raising money with similar units. So a 10 cent unit with 0.5 warrant for 2 years, the same accelerator at 20 cents. It's an opportunity for people to come in at the IPO price and follow our success as we enter these joint ventures and produce the drilling results in the near term. Thanks for that, Sean. David, question from Jane. You mentioned that you're undervalued.
40:14 Did you analyze or could you analyze for us why and also what you want to do? I think there's a couple of reasons why I think we're undervalued. The easy one is you can look, and I think we have this slide on this in one of our presentations on the website, just based on our defined ounces that we have, that's a very common valuation metric for companies with defined resources. And on that spectrum, I think we're one of the least expensive companies based on the ounces in the ground, which as I mentioned before, I think they remain open in all directions. The work we've done, I think we're quite optimistic that those will continue to grow significantly and really based on these new discoveries we're making in very close proximity And the fact that they're on a 6km trend, which has seen almost no expiration ever.
41:08 We are incredibly optimistic about the upside potential of that project. That's our golden saddle, Ryan's surprise area. But then you look at the other side of our portfolio, right? And this is our challenge. You asked the question why? White Gold is a bit of a super junior, right? In 2010, when this area of the Yukon was the frenzy of junior investment, when the Kaminak was first getting set up before they had their investment. The properties that we own now were held by about 7 or 8 different junior companies. There's Sean Ryan, he had this entire portfolio, helped these companies work with it. You know, when the market went soft in 2012, 13, 14, he ended up getting it all back with the benefit of about $25 million worth of work had been done. He cherry picked what he kept was the best. Right. So now it's a high graded part of what's been out there. You know, the value of those companies at that time when gold was at a lower price, The district didn't have these majors in their investing. So I would say a lesser of an investment thesis was probably $7 or $8. And that's not even including the ounces that we have. So it's a little bit confusing maybe. And sometimes that is an issue where you have too much going on in a company.
42:18 We're very much looking for ways to unlock that value. We do view ourselves as a project generator. We view White Gold being here for the next 20 years, making discoveries and vending those to the different producers in the area. Obviously, Nico and Kinron are our partners. They're the ones that take the golden saddle, move it to the next level, which would be feasibility and development. And as we continue to go on and make these new discoveries, we can then look to monetize each of these different assets for the value, for the benefit of the shareholders, which our group along with Sean Ryan are the largest shareholders, which we need from Kim Ross, and continue to do it. And we think we can do this over and over and over again for this period of time. Because like I said, I really believe that, we have cracked the code to discovering these mineralized systems in this prolific district that has not seen any real exploration work.
43:11 It's just a matter now of starting to execute on that a little bit more, helping people understand the opportunity, the fact that there's so much going on here. It does make the story a little bit complicated, but as management, shareholders, I think it's an incredible position to be in, to have this such a unique opportunity, such a great jurisdiction with the great backing that we do have. Thank you for that, David. A question to Anil. Your protection was offline for a few months. Could you tell us about your cash flow position now and how you're going to mitigate the reagent risk in the future going forwards? Yes, sure. On the cash flow side, we managed to bring in US$65M between the debt package and a US$5M repay, which was basically our working capital to get to the winter without production, as we knew we wouldn't restart till now anyways, even if we got cyanide in December or January.
44:08 Cash-wise, we're fine. That cash was about US$3M starting production this month. And while the 1st Gold sale won't be a full run rate, by the end of this month, we'll be probably in the millions and will be mostly coming into the till because we already paid for all this material last year. So we had the benefit of cash cash flow coming online almost immediately out of the gate. So next month will be another one, April. So cash flow, no issue. Cash on hand and future cash from monetizing this inventory immediately builds up very quickly. I think I mentioned you know probably about 20 million bucks US over the next 3, 4 months. It builds up that quick. So no issues there. And I'll continue. On the reagent side, we've obviously expanded that beyond one country and 1 vendor, relying on China with the land border that still has not opened up today for hazardous materials. Now we've got a crusher across in the fall, but it has not opened.
45:06 We've been working on it for 6-9 months now with other supply channels and we have about 4 open to us now. Even if that land border does open up, great, That's the fastest and easiest and cheapest. It has not. We have 4 channels opened up and we're actually building up an inventory. We expanded our storage on site from 200t to 400t. 400t is basically about a year's worth of consumption anyways, But our goal is over this month and next month to have a six-month inventory build-up. So we'll always have 6 months ahead of us for not just reagents, but even other key supplies, including fuel. So I've certainly learned to have multiple countries, multiple suppliers for this key chemical that we do need to get to production online. So we've certainly learned and we've grown our base. That's why we're very comfortable going forward with the top-ups that are happening.
46:01 Absolutely. Thank you, Anil. David, another question for you in White Gold, but could you speak to or continue with elaboration on the unique methodologies that White Gold uses to explore for Gold in the Yukon? And what do you think makes these strategies so effective? So the Yukon is a little bit of a different territory than most of Canada from a prospecting perspective and the reason that is because this area was actually not glaciated. So most prospecting is done at least in Canada by sampling outcrop. The glaciers come down, when they did, they basically scraped all the topsoil away as they were moving and exposed the underlying bedrock, which is known as outcrop. And traditionally, your prospector would be walking around in the bush and with their little chip hammer, take a sample, send that to a lab.
46:48 And that's what you use to identify what could be a potential that could validate additional exploration like trenching or drilling or geophysical work or what have you. Because it was not glaciated, there's very little outcrop action in Yukon. It's about 2%. So that technique just did not work. And that is my belief as to why nobody really spent the time looking at it. It's kind of a no-brainer. You have 20Moz of Gold sitting on the surface. Why aren't people going up there with modern exploration? Just that first step of prospecting, the tools that people use in this country to do that just don't work. So that was an issue. But Sean, when he went there, he used another approach, which is based on soil geochemistry. Soil sampling, if you've watched any of our videos, you see, you know, the guys got basically a tulip planter where they sample into, you know, a couple of feet deep into the soil and they use that as their sample. Now it's not necessarily so simple as, hey, I found a little bit of gold in my sample. There must be gold here. A lot of the times, and Sean, he's done a tremendous amount of research.
47:52 And I believe now, you know, starting on the work that he started in 2005, our district probably has one of the largest geochemical databases on the planet. I think we're up to almost 500,000 samples now. So that really helps you understand the mineralization of the entire district. And often it's other pathfinder elements like Bismuth, Tellurium, Arsenic that help you sort of vector in to where the Gold might be. And once you found a mineralizing trend, then you look to advance your exploration. And there's other tools that Sean has sort of developed, which have been actually incredibly effective and environmentally less disruptive. One of them is called the geo probe. So as opposed to trenching, you put a hammer drill into the bedrock, you know, a few feet into the bedrock. Now you're starting to see what that outcrop actually does look like. And this does not leave any impact at all. It's like a 3 inch hole.
48:48 And it's also no bias in the sampling, right? If you're in a trench, people look, maybe they pick a better sample, maybe they don't. This is going blind into the ground. It helps you out. So Sean has developed these techniques over time, shown to be effective. But as a researcher, he's continually looking to see how can we do this more effectively and efficiently from a cost and time perspective. So he's developed different protocols to help people do that. He's incorporated modern technology. We use a lot of droning now. First the drone started to just help you know look at the topography but now we've actually brought it to start to use some of our other you know geophysical sampling, LiDAR, MAG, etc. So instead of having you know people, planes, helicopters in the air consuming you know fuel, you have these rechargeable drones doing a lot of that work. Right. So these and that's how they through Ground Truth have coined the drones to drills methodology.
49:42 And on our website, there's a few videos that go into a little bit more detail, but at a high level, it's been very effective. Number 1, most important, but it's also helped save time and also helped save a lot of cost, which is as a junior mining company, these are imperative to optimizing the value creation of your company by minimizing your need for capital and thus minimizing dilution. Thanks, David. Listen, as we begin coming to a close today, I'd like to go around the room once more. And, Sean, I'd like to start with you. Same question we posed to each. If an investor could walk away knowing only one thing about your story, what would it be, Sean? We are an experienced group with a new company in an established jurisdiction.
50:31 This jurisdiction is target-rich in terms of projects. We are first movers in the basins of Nevada. Most of the work and discoveries and production in Nevada has been in the ranges, we are in the basins. We're looking for large discoveries. We've got multiple projects, and we expect to be making news in the very near future. This is an excellent opportunity for people at 10 cents. It's a ground floor and I really encourage people to get involved. So we hope to generate the kinds of returns that we've been known to do over the years.
51:21 And we're just getting started. Thanks, Sean. Luke, what about Nucor? What's something an investor should know if it's only one thing? Nucor is a district scale exploration project on a proven trend, the Cefuibibiani belt that has multiple 5Moz plus deposits along trend from our Enshi project. The company is fundamentally underpinned by a PEA that we put out last year that outlines very robust economics for the project. Fair enough. All right. Anil, what about Stepgold? Yeah, I think I've already beat down the cash flow, the double of production in a couple of years and expiration, all funded from cash flow.
52:07 I think the main point that I haven't spoken about is alignment. Our board and management team own 20% of the company, roughly. We've never issued an option lower than our listing price in 2018, when we hadn't even built a mine. That was at US$2. In fact, our stock price was US$1 when we issued the options for the first time ever, and we did it at US$2. 100% premium. So we have alignment with our investors. We share the pain and that grief with you. We don't necessarily dilute. We always take the first steps in the business to protect it. It's our own business, just like all our investors. So I think That is a key point to focus on as well. Thanks. And David, what about White Gold? What do investors need to know? One other thing I would touch on that I haven't mentioned yet is, although White Gold is a relatively new company, that Sean Ryan and the Power 1 Group formed in 2017, It has the benefit of almost 20 years now of work that Sean Ryan and his team, along with other companies have been doing in the region to understand the systems and have invested over that time north of $100 million.
53:19 So you're coming in sort of at the tail end of that initial reconnaissance period. The money's gone in, it's demonstrated the success. There's now ounces in the ground. This company probably trades the cheapest of any of its peer group in terms of those ounces alone. But what's the most important thing is they've proven that the system works. So we believe that they've cracked the code. And what we foresee is many, many more of these new discoveries. And we're at that drill phase now. The early work has been done. The targets are lined up. There are a lot more. We have some other credible targets. They're sorely staged. But we have these real new targets in elephant country. We've demonstrated great grades. We have the reason to believe why they could be substantial new discoveries in their own right.
54:09 We're actively diamond drilling them right now. So to be able to have all of that in 1 company, in a great jurisdiction, with these amazing partners, with other majors continuing to invest. All it really does, check all the boxes of what will lead to success in this industry. With the Power 1 Group, we've been fortunate to be involved with a number of companies that have been tremendously successful. And we really see all those characteristics here so much so that, you know, we're actually part of management working kind of together with Sean and his team to build what I think is going to be one of Canada's most exciting and prolific Gold Camps in the coming years. Thanks a lot, David. Listen, that's all the time we have for today at this point. I'd like to thank everyone for joining us and especially those who participated by asking questions. As a reminder, if you'd like to book a meeting with any of the speakers you see here now or throughout the rest of the conference, you can do so using the link sticking to the top of the chat, which can also be found by going to our site on the conference page and navigating to the meetings tab. Join us again for the next breakout session starting at 2 PM Eastern today.
55:13 Look forward to seeing you there. Cheers.