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10:33 How are you guys structuring your relationships with local partners and government stakeholders? Well, when we did our due diligence, one of the key elements that attracted us was the fact that the property was selected by our in-country manager, who worked for 15 years doing assays in-country for Alex Stewart International. So he's very familiar with all of the properties in-country. He's now buying and selling tantalum from the local parties on this belt and the belt extends for about 120 kilometers and there's lots of small operations taking place at the village levels or artisanal levels. So he's got those relationships. That's probably one of the most valuable assets that we have. He's also well known within the government and has been instrumental in relationships in terms of the permitting. He knows everybody at the Ministry of Mines and so on.
11:38 Also as part of our due diligence, I contacted one of my friends who I've known for 40 years, who's invested about $65 million in Bolivia, has 2 public companies, Canadian listed public companies operating down there. And he's also been very valuable. He's got all the contacts and government relationships, lawyers, accountants, and so on. So the vendors as well, the main investor in it passed away, but his colleagues have been working down there for many, many years. So I also had the benefit of their involvement. And they're still involved because they're shareholders now and they're getting a participation.
12:25 Great. No, I appreciate that. I think that's a useful extra context for folks. Now, I know we went through just the presentation, talking about the renewed investor interest after that decade-long bear market for critical minerals. I'm curious, just trying to look for your perspective here, what makes this kind of the right moment for Torino's entry into tantalum space And what advantages does your team specifically have to capitalize on the opportunity? Well, as mentioned, the main catalyst was the timing of being able to get to cash flow, given that we were still, when we took this on, we were still in this 10-year bear market that you were mentioning. The Tantalum aspect is quite interesting. One of my mentors, who I worked with for many, many years, has the credit for discovering the only Tantalum producing mine in Canada. And that was the Burnick Lake deposit. And the gentleman is Peter Howe, who passed away years ago.
13:22 And that became Tanko. And it's still operating, but not doing Tantalum. So there's no Tantalum operating mines in North America. We did have additional exposure to it, working with a company called Avalon, which is still around, it's changed its name. And they had the big whopper, which has petalite and tantalum. And so Tantalum, cesium, rubidium, all these metals that are associated with the pegmatites were something that I've had exposure to. And I also have, through other interests, a relationship with probably the foremost tantalum expert in the world. He's well up there, Dr. Peter Cox, and he's out of South Africa and he runs a number of mines and he's got a number of operations. So he's our primary consultant on the project.
14:17 And he also has a relationship with the refinery. He's been asked to be part of the management team at the Gutang refinery in South Africa. So they have processes for recovery and they've got some new technology that they'd like us to try. So all of that made it quite interesting to get into the tantalum sphere. And this belt is quite interesting because it has other, there's other elements on this property. There's niobium, there is some Platinum. There's other elements that we're going to be looking at, but we're starting off focusing on the Tantalum, which as it happens, just seems to be one of the metals that's being very much looked for.
15:03 Okay. So, I mean, with that consultant, with that really deep Tanzalum experience and an in-country manager with really niche specific experience of Tanzalum operations on that mineralized belt, I imagine all of that combined experience, local knowledge network, must be accelerating your development timeline, or at least give you an advantage compared to other folks? Well I think so. In terms of the permitting, Winston Dominguez, who's our in-country rep, knows everybody within the ministry, has worked with them, has good relationships. So I think the process has gone quite smoothly and it's taking a little longer than anticipated, but generally things take longer in Central America than anticipated. So we're forging ahead on that. And as I said, we've got the equipment already in place.
15:54 It's in storage right now. And they estimate that it could take 45 days to put it into production. But that was acquired by a private company and they don't have to follow the rate, the systematic exploration regime that a public company should follow, it makes sense. So we're gonna be doing the exploration systematically with a 43-101 and we do have access to a QP down there. So all that is looking quite good. Promising, yeah. And one thing I wanted to talk about, I know that 140 kilometer belt has multiple active operations as we've already talked to it today. Are there, or does that mean that there's opportunities to leverage any existing infrastructure or collaborate with the neighboring producers and explorers in ways that could benefit or at least reduce CapEx for the Metal 46 project?
16:46 Well, we've been, given that the equipment that we're bringing on is more sophisticated than the equipment generally used there at the moment. We've been already asked if we would do custom milling or if people could bring their material to our property. I didn't want to get into that until we're into production. So that's always going to be there. We've also, because of these 2 major funds that have been established, a billion and a billion 8 funds and they're interested. Our project is obviously too small at the moment, but so we were looking and just discussing opportunities and there is an opportunity to buy existing mines and additional properties And that's being compiled right now. But that's all. That's a function of funding. And we're not there yet.
17:39 No, it makes sense. Speaking of the timeline and process. Before I get to the questions in the chat. What are the kind of key milestones that investors who are in the room today should be watching for over the next, let's say 12 to 18 months as you go from expiration through to that 43-101? Well, the expiration permit is the next milestone. And as soon as we get that, we will be looking to do a financing to carry out the expiration and to be able to assemble the equipment and get into small scale production. So first is expiration license, then an expiration program, and then the exploitation license will be sought, then the results from the exploration license of 43-101 and a production decision will be taken.
18:30 And then that's expansion from there. I mean, we will be growing organically, but we also have a number of opportunities being presented to us. Great. Well, appreciate, obviously, let me go through my questions. I've got a couple from the chat as well that I wanted to touch on today before we jump. 1, it's a two-part question from Barry in the chat. And he asks, is tantalum a critical mineral right now? I imagine as designated by governments in the West. It is, it's both on the US and on the Canadian side. It's one of the 58, I think we're into in Canada, but yes, it is a critical metal. Great, and the second part of his question, are there any roots or what are the roots for government funding of projects?
19:20 Well, as I said, the US government is looking to buy $100 million worth of tantalum. So if we had it To sell, we could be selling there. I don't think the Bolivian government is doing any programs at the moment. So the answer is we're now seeing capital being deployed in the sector. So the funds that are being created, these billion dollar funds and opportunities are there to be taken. Great. One question from Wesley in the chat, and this is about Bolivia. Curious if the new Bolivian government, so following the election, is committed to reducing permitting timelines?
20:11 They haven't mentioned that yet, but they are. That's obviously something that has to be done, but in their effort to attract foreign investment, I'm sure they're going to be looking at that. Great. 1 I'll throw at you just before we close off for today. What are you most excited about, Rick, in the next couple of months at Terraino? What's keeping you up with excitement that the investors should keep an eye on? I'm being offered all sorts of elements that would allow us to expand very, very quickly. And the missing link is the capital. And you hate to say that that's the missing link because it's generally something else but I think we do have the people, we do have the property, so that's the third leg of the chair if you will, is the capital. So we're going to have to get more exposure, Part of that is an education process as to tantalum and the applications.
21:08 We're not currently in a position to do offtake agreements because we haven't defined a resource and the reserve and we're not in production, but as soon as we're in production, Winston has people very interested in buying what we will be able to produce. So that takes us into another level altogether. Awesome. Well, Rick, thank you so much for running through quick presentation and letting us go through questions and thanks everybody in the audience. Oh, actually there's one question that just came in. So I'll throw this to you before we jump. Curious, Eric Hallday from the chat asks, what's the status with the local communities that own the area where you want to operate the project and do you have land agreements in place? We do have a preliminary agreements with the local indigenous group and they actually control a huge swath of land.
22:02 It's 2.8 million hectares. And every meeting that we've had, they come in and they're very, we have a good relationship with them, primarily through Winston. But they bring in samples from properties that they would like us to develop. And that's obviously something that we're going to be looking at. They're looking for employment, so that's going to be there. There's also quite a bit of activity in lumber at the moment, and the roads are being maintained by the lumber companies, and we're going to be participating in that. And so social license is obviously very important to us. We will be addressing that. Great. I think that now actually is it for questions. Thanks everybody who joined in the room and Rick thanks for running us through.
22:52 If anybody would like to set up a meeting with Rick, please do feel free to reach out or if you think of the perfect question right after the webinar ends, it's something I do all the time, Please do feel free to reach out. I'll make sure that question gets to Rick so you can get back to you as soon as possible. But thank you so much. Hope everybody has a great end of their day.