Joe Capper
CEO
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MiMedx Group, Inc (NASDAQ: MDXG) Q1 2025 earnings conference call, held 2025-04-30. Replay captured from the company's public earnings webcast.

CEO
Senior Executive
Analyst
Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald
Analyst, Mizuho Group
Yeah, I'm going to stay away from forecasting how much of our business might convert to a higher-priced product. Look, this was not our first choice. This was a step we felt it was necessary to take to protect some portion of our business. It's a little bit more niche-y for us. Again, 25% exposure in that category. And within our current customer mix, you don't have – the majority of them are probably niche. not moving in that direction. Let's just put it that way. And to the extent that they do, because there's some fear of missing out, they're looking for products that are priced higher than our existing portfolio, but more moderately priced as compared to what we're seeing out there in the marketplace today. What we're seeing out there is rather obscene. And remember, when a doctor decides to use a product that's several thousand dollars, They still have exposure and risk around audit. And we know that audits are increasing at quite a high rate, right? So the higher the bill of charges, the higher the potential callback in the event of an unsuccessful audit outcome. So I think for us, it's a little bit more niche-y. That's why in my prepared remarks, I cautioned against looking at this as some sort of a windfall. I would look at it as just a tactic or step that we're taking to protect as much business as we can until reform takes place. And just last for me, you know, strong surgical growth in the quarter. You know, can you cue us in on what portion of growth is driven by Heliogen? And then is there any specific surgical indication that is having an outsized impact on the growth? And then kind of what's driving that? Is it just better sales execution or was there a recent data set that's kind of really driving volumes in the surgical side? I think it's just better...