Adaptive Biotechnologies (NASDAQ:ADPT) Q2 2026 Earnings Call

0:01 Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Adaptive Biotechnologies Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Carina Calzadilla, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Thank you, Tonya, and good afternoon, everyone. I would like to welcome you to Adaptive Biotechnologies Second Quarter twenty twenty six Earnings Conference Call. Earlier today, we issued a press release reporting Adaptive financial results for the second quarter. The press release is available at www.adaptivebiotech.com.

0:54 We are conducting a live webcast of this call and will be referencing to the slide presentation that has been posted in the Investors section in our corporate website. During the call, management will make projections and other forward looking statements within the meaning of federal security laws regarding future events and the future financial performance of the company. These statements reflect management's current perspective of the business as of today. Actual results may differ materially from today's forward looking statements depending on a number of factors, which are set forth in our public filings with the SEC and listed in this presentation. In addition, non GAAP financial measures will be discussed during the call and a reconciliation from non GAAP to GAAP metrics can be found in our earnings release. Joining the call today are Chad Rollins, our CEO and Co Founder and Kyle Fischl, our Chief Financial Officer.

1:45 Additional members from management will be available for Q and A. With that, I'll turn the call over to Chad. Chad? Thanks, Karina. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us on our second quarter earnings call. Q2 was an exceptional quarter for Adaptive and a clear validation of our strategy and execution. We delivered excellent operating performance, took decisive strategic actions to unlock shareholder value and strengthened our balance sheet. Together, these accomplishments reinforce our confidence in the long term opportunity ahead. Three achievements define the quarter. First, our MRD business delivered one of the strongest quarters in our history.

2:31 Revenue, excluding milestones, increased 49% year over year, driven by growth across both clinical testing and pharma. Clinical testing volume grew 43 adding more than 3,500 tests sequentially, while pharma sequencing continued its strong momentum. We expanded MRD sequencing gross margin to 71%, up nine percentage points from a year ago, and we increased adjusted EBITDA margin to 14%. These results demonstrate the scalability of our MRD business and its ability to generate profitable growth. Second, we announced our plan to separate our MRD and immune medicine business.

3:19 We are evaluating strategic and structural alternatives for immune medicine that we believe will best position the business to pursue its growth strategy, access the capital it needs and unlock its full potential outside of Adaptive. We have retained Morgan Stanley as our advisor and continue to expect to identify our preferred path of separation by year end. Third, we further strengthened our balance sheet through a successful $340,000,000 zero coupon convertible note offering. The transaction enabled us to retire the OrberMed agreement, simplify our capital structure, increase our financial flexibility to execute our separation strategy and invest in the compelling opportunities we see in MRD.

4:08 Importantly, we pair the financing with a cap call transaction and share repurchase, significantly reducing potential shareholder dilution while optimizing the economics of the financing. We ended the quarter with approximately $357,000,000 in cash. The performance we've delivered year to date, combined with the momentum we're seeing across clinical and pharma, reinforces our confidence in the trajectory of the MRD business. Accordingly, we're raising our full year MRD revenue guidance to a range of $268,000,000 to $278,000,000 Kyle will provide additional details in his remarks. Now let's take a closer look at the clinical business on Slide five, which continues to be the primary driver of MRD growth.

5:03 Clinical revenue increased 53% year over year, driven by a 43% increase in testing volumes and a 7% increase in ASP. During the quarter, we delivered more than 36,100 clonoSEQ tests, representing 11% sequential growth. This reflects continued expansion of our ordering physician and account base, combined with deeper penetration of existing accounts and increasing adoption across the patient care continuum. Growth was broad based across every reimbursed indication. CLL grew 16% sequentially, continuing to benefit from the 2025 NCCN guideline update.

5:51 Multivylloma, our largest indication representing 44% of testing volume, grew 15% sequentially, driven by broader adoption of blood based testing across both academic and community. In lymphoma, DLBCL and MCL now account for approximately sixteen percent of total testing volume and both delivered healthy double digit sequential growth. We also continue to make progress on pricing. U. S. ASP increased to $13.82 dollars per test this quarter, reflecting ongoing reimbursement gains, including a recent expansion of MCL coverage with Concert as well as operational improvements from bringing key revenue cycle management functions in house.

6:42 The takeaway is clear. We're growing volumes, expanding adoption across indications and improving pricing. Those are the fundamentals that drive durable top line clinical growth. Let's turn to slide six, which highlights some of the key drivers behind our clinical volume growth. What is encouraging is that each of these metrics continues to move in the right direction, supporting both broader adoption of clonoSEQ and increased testing over time. Starting with blood based testing. Because blood is less invasive and more convenient for patients, it supports more frequent MRD testing through the course of treatment. Blood based testing grew 68% year over year and 14% sequentially, and represented 51% of total clonoSEQ volume in Q2, exceeding half of all tests for the first time.

7:38 Importantly, we're seeing increasing adoption of blood testing in both multiple myeloma and ALL, two indications for which physicians traditionally have relied on bone marrow testing. Blood now contributes thirty percent of MRD testing in multiple myeloma and forty two percent in ALL. The shift towards blood also expands our opportunity in the community setting, where blood based testing is significantly easier to integrate into routine practice. Community testing represented thirty six percent of total sleep clonoSEQ volume this quarter, exceeding our full year target and grew 65% year over year. That growth has been supported by broader adoption of updated clinical guidelines, standardized testing protocols and our EMR enabled workflows, which are making repeat testing easier for physicians.

8:32 We're also seeing encouraging progress in serial monitoring. One year after our Flatiron integration, seventy five percent of repeat orders have been fulfilled, demonstrating that community physicians are increasingly incorporating MRD into ongoing patient management rather than using it as a one time test. Importantly, physician adoption continues to expand. Nearly 5,002 100 clinicians ordered clonoSEQ during the quarter, an increase of forty percent from a year ago. We view this as another indicator that MRD testing is becoming a standard part of clinical care across a growing number of providers. These drivers are interconnected.

9:19 Greater adoption of blood based testing, continued expansion in the community, increasing physician adoption and higher rates of serial monitoring all support deeper penetration across indications and more testing per patient through the continuum of care. Now let's turn to Slide seven to take a look at our MRD Pharma business. This was another good quarter for MRD Pharma. Sequencing revenue grew 38% year over year, excluding milestones. Importantly, unlike the prior year, we did not recognize any milestone revenue this quarter, highlighting the continued strength of the underlying sequencing business. We ended the quarter with 189 active global clinical trials and a backlog of approximately $245,000,000 up 12% from a year ago.

10:10 We view this backlog as an important leading indicator of future revenue and continued demand from our biopharma partners. The quality of our portfolio continues to improve. Studies in which MRDS uses a regulated endpoint, either primary or secondary, now comprise about 60% of our active studies compared to about 40% a couple of years ago. These studies not only carry higher economic value, but they also create opportunities for future milestone payments tied to regulatory approvals. Ultomiroma continues to represent the largest portion of our registrational portfolio, reflecting the industry's growing use of MRD following the FDA support for MRD as an endpoint. At the same time, we're seeing encouraging expansion in both CLL and ALL with a number of registrational studies continue to grow as sponsors increasingly are incorporating MRD into their development programs.

11:05 Beyond the numbers, we're also seeing a shift in how MRD is being used. More studies are using MRD to guide enrollment, stratification and treatment decisions rather than simply measuring response. That generates the clinical evidence needed to support broader adoption in routine care and strengthens the connection between our biopharma and our clinical businesses. To wrap on MRD, Slide eight summarizes our progress against the key objectives we set for 2026. At the midpoint of the year, we've either achieved or remain on track to achieve each of them. Clinical testing volumes have exceeded our original expectations.

11:51 Based on the first half performance and continued momentum, we now expect volume growth between 38% to 40% this year, which is well above our initial target of more than 30%. The key drivers of growth are also ahead of plan. Blood based testing and community adoption have already exceeded our full year targets, while EMR integrations continue to progress with 31 additional accounts integrated year to date. On pricing, we're on track to achieve our target of approximately $1,400 per test, supported by continued reimbursement progress and improved collections. And finally, strong revenue growth combined with ongoing operational efficiencies keeps us on track to exceed 70% sequencing gross margin while continuing to expand adjusted EBITDA.

12:45 Overall, the business continues to perform ahead of expectations. We're expanding adoption, improving profitability, and executing against the strategy we laid out at the beginning of the year. Before I turn the call over to Kyle to go over financial results and updated guidance, I'd like to provide an update on our plan to separate the immune medicine business and the progress we've made. The timing for a separation is right. MRD has scaled into a profitable market leading diagnostics business with a clear runway for durable growth. At the same time, immune medicine has evolved into a differentiated discovery platform built on proprietary immune data, AI, and target discovery. As each business enters its next phase, each requires a different operating model, capital structure, and set of investors.

13:38 For immune medicine, we see the greatest opportunity to realize the value of its assets outside of a commercial diagnostics company. As such, Adaptive will remain focused on expanding its leadership in MRD diagnostics while identifying the best path forward for immune medicine to advance as an independent business. Since announcing our plans, we've taken several important steps to move the process forward. First, as mentioned, we've retained Morgan Stanley to advise us as we evaluate the strategic and structural alternatives for the immune medicine business. Second, Harlan Robbins, my brother, is transitioning from Chief Scientific Officer role at Adaptive to a consultant role, supporting key R and D initiatives for MRD while dedicating significant time to advancing the separation of I'm Given its scientific leadership and deep knowledge of the platform, its active participation is important during this transition.

14:35 Third, we've sharpened the focus of the immune medicine portfolio. Following a comprehensive review, we've decided to wind down our research use only pharma services business. While it operated around breakeven, it was not central to the assets that differentiate immune medicine. Going forward, we'll focus on the platform's highest value assets and capability, which are our proprietary TCR antigen data set, our AI machine learning digital models, and our target discovery platform for autoimmune disease. We're also exploring new ways to monetize these unique assets and maximize their path forward. As an initial step, we plan to enter into a trial agreement with Harel Data Corp, an independent cloud based marketplace founded by Harlan that enables proprietary data sets and AI models to be crowdsourced among researchers and developers.

15:30 This creates a new commercialization model where data creators can participate in the value generated as their data sets and models are used to solve scientific problems and develop new products. Finally, we continue to make good progress on the Pfizer deal in RA, where we are sequencing patients to identify disease specific T cell receptors to inform potential therapeutic development. This program remains an important focus of the immune medicine team. In summary, in the past one months, point we've established a clear separation process, sharpened the strategic focus of the business and are advancing new opportunities to realize the value of these assets. We remain on track to identify our preferred path by year end, and we'll update you on further progress accordingly.

16:20 I'll now turn the call over to Kyle. Kyle? Thanks, Chad. I'll start on Slide 10 with our second quarter results. Total revenue was $71,600,000 an increase of 30% from the prior year, driven by continued strength in MRD, which represented 92% of total company revenue. As a reminder, of the Genentech payments are excluded from all prior period comparisons. MRD revenue was $66,200,000 up 33% year over year. Importantly, excluding $5,500,000 of milestones recognized in the second quarter of last year, the core MRD revenue grew 49% driven by continued strength in both clinical and pharma businesses. Clinical and pharma represented 7525% of MRD revenue respectively.

17:10 Immune medicine revenue was $5,400,000 up 8% from a year ago, primarily reflecting revenue recognized as part of our target discovery agreement with Pfizer. Turning to margins. Sequencing gross margin, which excludes MRD milestones was 72% for the quarter, up from 64% a year ago. This reflects lower assay costs following our NovaSeq X transition along with continued operating leverage as volumes grow. We also maintain disciplined expense management. Total operating expenses, including cost of revenue were 87,300,000 up 4% year over year. The increase primarily reflects continued investment in our commercial infrastructure, including reimbursement and EMR integration initiatives, partially offset by lower R and D spending in immune medicine.

17:58 At the segment level, MRD adjusted EBITDA increased to $9,100,000 compared to $1,900,000 a year ago, reflecting the combination of strong revenue growth and continued operating leverage. Immune Medicine reported an adjusted EBITDA loss of 6,300,000 resulting in an adjusted EBITDA loss of 700,000 for the total company. GAAP net loss for the quarter was 39.9, which included 26,400,000 of debt extinguishment expense and interest expense related to our now settled OrbiMed financing agreement. With the repayment of OrbiMed and the completion of our zero coupon convertible note offering going forward, we will generate net interest income from our cash and investments on hand. Turning to slide 11, we are raising our full year MRD revenue guidance to a range of $268,000,000 to $278,000,000 up from our prior range of $260,000,000 to $270,000,000 This increase reflects stronger than expected clinical volume and pharma sequencing performance in the second quarter, as well as higher year over year clinical volume growth of 38 to 40% versus our prior guidance of 35%.

19:12 Our guidance continues to include 9,000,000 of MRD milestone revenue, which was all recognized in the first quarter and assumes no additional milestone revenue during the second half of the year. At the midpoint of the guide, this implies 29% year over year growth or 37% growth excluding milestones. We're narrowing our full year operating expense guidance to $350,000,000 to $355,000,000 versus our prior range between $350,000,000 and $360,000,000 reflecting lower spend in the immune medicine business. As a result, we remain on track to achieve positive adjusted EBITDA and positive free cash flow for the entire company by the end of twenty twenty six. With that, I'll turn back the call to Chad.

19:58 Thanks, Kyle. This quarter demonstrates that our strategy is delivering results. We're growing revenue and expanding profitability in the MRD business, taking decisive steps to unlock the value of immune medicine and strengthening our financial position to support the opportunities ahead. We're confident in the direction of the business and look forward to updating you on our continued progress next quarter. With that, I'll turn it over to the operator for questions. And our first question will come from the line of David Westenberg of Piper Sandler. Your line is open, David.

20:46 All right. Thank you for taking the question and congrats again. I actually want to focus on the multiple myeloma of fifteen percent growth sequentially. This is your biggest indication and I don't think there's a single multiple myeloma doc out there that hasn't heard of you. So can you talk about some of the things driving that? I would guess maybe this is frequency and maybe a number of tests per patient is going up. But can you just maybe talk about some of that unlock there? Because just given again that this is such an older indication, it was an impressive number and I'd love to see you know, how does this keep going, you know, quarter on quarter. Thank you. Yes, Susan. Thanks, David. And I apologize, I was stuck on mute here. So I think the question was focused on multiple myeloma and the growth and how we can continue that. Is that fair?

21:39 We'll just say, yeah. Let me know if I don't if I address it. Yeah, we're very pleased to see the growth in multiple myeloma this quarter. And I think it reflects the continued focus that is our top priority indication. It's the largest contribution to our business. And it's been particularly driven in recent quarters by the continued increase in blood based testing, which we think is a critical opportunity both to access untapped users in the community setting where bone marrow is more difficult to complete, and also to increase interim surveillance testing and increase the frequency of testing in multiple myeloma across the patient care continuum. We do believe that we will need to continue to invest in that blood testing strategy, both by developing data with our current assay and by investing in product development to continue to enhance sensitivity we can offer in that space.

22:35 And we also will need to continue to bring forward clinical actionability use cases, like the ones you've seen in recent years, like Midas to show how patients can avoid transplantation, show how patients can discontinue therapy based in the maintenance setting. All of those things will continue to support, we believe ongoing updates to the guidelines, openness to establishing testing pathways and protocols and standardized testing at the clinic and account level. And we'll leverage the EMR to ensure that as our customers and the departments they're in are starting to accept and buy into these clinical actionability use cases that we can standardize those and ensure that the patients get the pull through of the testing that their providers intend.

23:24 And I'll just add one comment on top of that, Susan, which is David, even with a 15% quarter over quarter sequential growth in our largest indication, which obviously we very pleased to see, we're now only seventeen percent penetrated in multiple myeloma. So there's a long kind of growth runway ahead of us, especially as we continue to move to or incorporate more blood based testing and penetrate the community. Appreciate it. And just maybe one for Kyle. And again, the volume is really, really strong. So I don't mean to pick them. The ASC is still good, seven percent of the Europe over there. We're not quite to the fourteen hundred. So just in the second half, can you talk about some of the stuff that you expect to be improving, the payer mix, indication mix, things like that, price actions, anything you can do to make us feel like that 1,400 is a derisk number. Thank you again and congrats guys.

24:26 Yes, I appreciate the question, David. You know, I think I'd start with, we had a couple of contracts that we renegotiated in prior years that have price increases that go into effect effectively in the second half of the year. So we'll start with that. I think the second piece is as we continue to focus on kind of expanding coverage in DLBCL and MCL and getting some momentum from there and capturing some additional dollars from those coverage expansions that will help lift it. And then, you know, finally, we've got some initiatives going on with two large payers, which we've been working to re contract with that we're focused on and executing in the second half of the year. And our next question will be coming from the line of Subbu Nambi of Guggenheim. Your line is open.

25:19 Hey guys, thank you for taking my question. As blood becomes a bigger share of clonoSEQ volumes and drives more serial testing per patient that you spoke about, especially in surveillance settings with coverage gaps, should reported ASP still be the KPI we anchor on, or is per patient economics the better lens? Any sense on how poor patient ASP is trending as the blood mix shifts? Even directionally, are you seeing lifetime value per patient expand even if forecast ASP compresses? Yes. Hi, Sue Lu. I'll take that. First, I'll say that ASP and per patient economics are very intertwined or related. And we have an active set of dialogue going on to close the coverage gaps, particularly, as you mentioned, in our largest indication of multiple myeloma.

26:13 We are in a I'll characterize it as a productive dialogue with Medicare, with the MolDEX program, to expand the number of tests per episode. I think that's, in our opinion and our assessments, going to be the quickest way to get there. And again, those conversations are going well. Keep in mind also, though, that this only applies to the Medicare population, which is kind of high-thirty percent of our business. The commercial payer coverage doesn't have a limitation on the number of tests. It's just based on medical necessity. But in addition to kind of expanding the number of tests kind of per episode, we also have our second indication for recurrence monitoring, which we're working on. As you recall, last year, we got MCL, and now we're working on CLL. So we can go on an indication by indication basis. So long story short, we're going to close those coverage gaps.

27:12 It is smart to point out that ASP you have to deal with a little bit of a chicken or the egg problem in diagnostics, where you have to prove that the necessity of doing I'll put in this case more than four tests is warranted and that clinicians are on the path to do that. And you're trying to do that kind of before you kind of cross over that kind of four test threshold. But you can't get coverage until you really have the data to do that. And we do feel now that we've got kind of a sufficient amount of data kind of that warrants an expansion of the number of tests beyond it. But our main strategy is increase the number of tests per patient over the life cycle of a patient. That is ultimately what's going to drive the growth in the future. And we absolutely have many different paths to make sure that we will get paid for that and it will be captured in the revenue line.

28:07 Super helpful. Thank you for that, Chad. My second question is, any chance you could give us detail on what percent of volume comes from the top group of ordering HCPs? How is that informing your strategy to go deeper versus broader to expand volumes? Thank you so much. Yeah, thanks for that question, Subbu. So, in Q2, over 5,100 HCPs ordered clonoSEQ for clinical purposes. And if I look at the concentration of volumes in that quarter, our top 100 or so users make up around 10% of that volume. So there is, as with many businesses, a concentration of those highest, you know, deepest adopters. Takes about 2,000 providers to get to 80% of that volume.

28:53 And our use has become considerably more distributed over time, which I think is a reflection of our strategy to broaden use, particularly in the community setting where patients where fewer patients per provider are seen, but overall, many, more than half of the patients in the cancer community are treated. So, I think we still have a significant opportunity to go broader. We believe that, you know, approaching half of clinicians who treat new patients in The US are currently ordering clonoSEQ. But we also have an opportunity to go much deeper, even on some of those top users. There are a growing number of clinical use cases that are supported by the evidence and the guidelines. And we have increasingly the access to EMR based tools that can help us further standardize testing and optimize frequency.

29:39 We've seen success on all of those fronts, and I think it demonstrates that we can continue to focus on both and that there's a high ceiling, both in terms of breath and depth. Perfect. Thank you so much, guys. Congratulations once again. Thanks, Subbu. And our next question is coming from the line of Mark Massaro of BTIG. Mark, your line is open. Hey, guys. Thank you for taking the questions and congrats on the strong quarter. My first question is on commercial payer contracting. You know, you've done a nice job of getting more commercial payers up to your newer higher Medicare rate. I know your $1,400 ASP guide contemplated getting there this year even without negotiating higher with two other commercial health plans.

30:31 Pardon me if I missed it, but where do you stand now with those large two health plans? Have you met with them? And any updates there would be helpful. Yes, we have a productive dialogue going on with both those. I think it's just a matter of time and hopefully it'll be in the second half of this year. And as you mentioned, it's not necessary. We've got many paths to get to the 1,400. At this point, I would just consider it maybe as upside, but we're confident in the number. Fantastic. And then my second one is pretty basic. Obviously, guys are firing on all cylinders and volumes, you know, with 43% growth. You raised the clinic volume guide to 38 to 40. This one is on competitive environment. It doesn't look like there's anything concern relative to the Natera foresight offering. But can you just give us a sense for what you're seeing in the market?

31:28 And, you know, maybe just talk about your competitive positioning? Sure. Yeah, I thank you for that question, Mark. I think, overall, we are certainly seeing the presence of competition out in the field, particularly in DLBCL. That said, when we look at the impact on our growth on our customer base, we haven't yet seen any attributable impact. We do believe that we have a winning position here. We have an unparalleled technology platform. It's purpose built for hematology patients. We have a strong evidence base, substantial real world experience based on our head start, established reimbursements. Our customers tell us they love working with us, and we've EMR integrated with increasing proportion of them.

32:17 I think even with all those, I would still highlight that the DLBCL market where we're seeing most of the competition is a very early, you know, underdeveloped market. So, we really don't view it as us versus them to be able to succeed here. And we benefit in the short term as awareness of MRD and the potential utility of MRD and DLBCL is increasing. And we can leverage all the modes I talked about effectively in the short term in the midst of that increased awareness. And I also think we'll benefit in the longer term as we further demonstrate the clinical performance of the enhanced version of our ctDNA assay that we launched last year. And that's one of the big areas of focus for us later this year and going forward.

33:05 That's great. Thank you, guys. Our next question will be coming from the line of Dan Brennan of TD Cowen. Your line is open. Great, thank you. Thanks for the questions. Congrats on the quarter. Maybe just to start with the guide, the MRD guide. So can you just walk through a little bit the pacing in the back half of the year? So the new volume guide, you know, eight to 40 does imply still a slowdown from the, you know, the low 40s growth rate this year. Is that just conservatism or comps? Obviously, a great start to the year and still a great guide. Just wondering if there's some cushion baked in there. And then kind of implies, I think pharma steps down from Q2. So any color just on MRD pharma, which is really strong in Q2 as well?

33:59 Sure, of course. Thanks, Dan. I think we're really pleased with the growth we've delivered in the first half of this year, and we feel very comfortable with delivering on the growth that we've guided for the remainder of the year and for the full year about 38% to 40%. Keep in mind that the midpoint of that range is the same growth we delivered last year on a percentage basis. And this of course would be off a much bigger base. So we think it's a prudent place to be for now, given there's still half of the year to go, but we do not have any specific expectations that we will see deceleration. In fact, quite the opposite. We are monitoring all the main growth drivers, which have trended strongly year to date, and I think they are very reasonably a source of further upside. We just want to remain focused in the second half of the year on all the strategic drivers that we believe can unlock that upside.

34:49 And so in the clinical business, I remain quite confident in our ability to continue to deliver similar results. On the pharma side of the business, we've had really strong first half as well. And, you know, I think the thing to keep in mind with that business is it's lumpy. So, it's dependent on the timing of trial enrollment and sample arrival. And so, we, again, will continue to be prudent in the way that we anticipate the future, but we have seen great trends coming out of that space, continued opportunity in multiple myeloma in particular, but also in leukemias to expand the degree to which we're doing interventional studies, regulated studies that deliver significantly higher economics.

35:37 And the use of MRD as an endpoint is stronger than ever in multiple myeloma. So, we have many reasons to be optimistic about that business as well. Terrific. Thanks. Thanks for all the color. And then maybe just a second, just on the separation. Obviously, you're kind of talked about it a little bit on this call. I'm just wondering maybe any updates just kind of what's transpired since you announced it? You're obviously looking to separate the businesses you've discussed in the past, maybe the strategic value of the standalone MRD business post the successful separation? Just looking for any other color incremental information you could provide. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, Dan, I think that's it, right? In the sense that if you look at kind of the goalpost of an outcome, I would say, I'm going put this in kind of bunnier quotes, kind of the worst outcome terms of that we have the MRD businesses is kind of free and clear and separated to be able to kind of pursue its growth strategy.

36:40 And like we've been talking about for the last couple of years is I'm is really a call option. I would like to kind of point you to continue to think of it as such. We're looking for an outcome there. We're evaluating the different paths with our advisors, Morgan Stanley, to see kind of what the potential value maximizing path is shareholders. We'll update you. That could take kind of several different forms. We're at them and we'll provide further information at the appropriate time. Thanks, Tom. And our next question will be coming from the line of Casey Woodring of JPMorgan. Your line is open, Casey.

37:28 Great. Thanks for taking my questions and taking me on the call today. I wanted to follow-up on the serial testing piece. You flagged during the prepared remarks, I think, that 75% of repeat orders have been fulfilled this quarter. That number last quarter, I think, was 72. Just kind of curious on if the updated volume guide assumes some sort of benefit from serial testing that wasn't in there before, or if you're still sort of leaving that as upside to the year? And then maybe just how do we think about those numbers trending in the back half of the year? Sure. I think the short answer is that the guide doesn't necessarily contemplate specific increases in serial testing, although that is a key area of focus for us, both in the approach we've taken to driving blood based testing adoption and also utilization of EMR tools to increase testing consistency.

38:19 The Flatiron experience, I mean, I do feel really pleased with the results we've been able to accomplish. When we first measured serial testing back in Q4, the first full quarter we had to compare, we had 60% pull through. And now, as you've noted, we've increased it to seventy five. And I think we would like to be able to apply the lessons we've learned in that setting with Onco EMR customers to other settings like our Epic customers. In fact, in Q2, we did our first ever Epic integration with a custom serial testing interface built into that. And we've been really pleased with the early results, and we'll have a lot more data on how that's going over the next two quarters or so. But our general approach is to continue to look for avenues to standardize the way that serial testing is delivered, the number of projects ongoing in that space, and it is a source of potential upside in the guide.

39:22 Thank you. And our next question will come from Callum Titchmartsch from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Hey guys, thanks for taking the question. Maybe following up on Dan's question on separation. I guess folks are trying to work out what the next step looks like and how the MRD business could look on its own. There's obviously still good room to run-in heme. But do you think heme only MRD platform can be sufficient longer term or would you perhaps look to bolster capabilities on the solid tumor side too? I know there's been some debate there in the past, but curious whether the separation changes that outlook.

40:09 Oh my gosh, I apologize. I'm not sure why this is cutting out. But I'll say, I appreciate the question. And I think that two things. One, the separation. And two, we brought additional capital onto the balance sheet through the convertible debt offering that we did allows us to look at how we can leverage the platform that we built, both in terms of our capabilities, if you look at them in terms of generating the clinical evidence, our market access and the ability to get reimbursed, our revenue cycle management functions. We figure out really how to efficiently operate a lab with scalable gross margin opportunities.

40:54 So we look at if we can deploy those core competencies and capabilities that we've built to other opportunities, it's something that we're looking at. And that means potentially in solid tumors, but also in other disease areas as well. But I do want to just kind of mention that we have a very kind of disciplined approach to not only capital allocation organically, but for inorganic growth as well. We put a set of criteria and filters on to look at things that have we want to play in areas that we can win, have tests that have high gross margin opportunities, that are really have high sensitivity and specificity, and areas that we think we have a differentiated competitive advantage. And those are areas which we look to kind of leverage the platform we've built to continue growing the business.

41:57 But I also want to mention though that I want to go back again to say there is a long growth ahead of us in the MRD team business. So we're going to make sure that whatever if we do something that it is a high growth profile and fits well into the platform. Stick to one. Thanks. Thank you. And I am showing no further questions from our phone lines. I would now like to pass it back to management. Mhmm. Thank you very much. Thank you. And this does conclude the program.

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